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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
17:18:36
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Me: 01 quad cab 4.7L, auto, 3.55 g/r, z-tube, & jet chip
My friend: 01 extened cab chevy silverado 1500, 5.3L, auto, 3.42 g/r, k&n fipk, hypertech programmer.
He beat me 3 out of 3 times racing (very unpolpulated area) he didn't beat me by much, but HE STILL WON! any ideas what in the hell i could do to win next time? i just ordered the 70mm throttle body with the bigger z-tube and i am looking at putting 3.92 gears in.
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Anthony G
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
17:42:04
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0-60 beat you? 0-100? 1/4? Did he take off first?
A good head start of just a second or less can give him a good truck length. Try switching trucks and see the outcome.
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
17:51:11
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it was about 1/4 mile, maybe a little less. we took off at the same time (at least as far as the naked eye could tell) and he lead the whole race every time. maybe i just suck at racing. i dont see how it could be driver error though, i said go, and we both took off, simple as that.
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Clevite 77
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
18:42:19
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3.92's would be a good start, you might want to try putting an electric fan in replace of your clutch fan, I read on another post that the clutch fan doesn't use up too much hp but it's some
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Aaro
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
18:50:18
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A good brake torque can save you 1/2+ sec. on your 0-60 mph times . Put your left foot on the brake and your right foot on the gas (open the throtle about 3/4 , just before wheel spin)then lift off the brake and slowly open the throtle the rest of the way.Takes a few trys to get it right . This can be done with a 5sp and a heel toe thing , but will not save as much time(1/10 sec. or less)and is hard on the clutch.This works because the springs wrap up so weight transfer is faster and the coverter is at stall speed.If you didn't stage right the frist time you will win next time.
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R. Middleton
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
20:04:18
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Go to the local dragstrip, even having to say go may give your opponent the advantage. Try a round where he says go. The start is so critical at the other end of the track it's best to go to the strip, also try holding the truck in each gear a little longer. If you are just racing in drive you probably aren't getting far enough into the trucks power.
just my $.02
Stay sane,
Stay Strong!
Middy.
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
20:37:26
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next time i will try some of your ideas. i even went as far as checking my available funds on my credit cards to just have a supercharger installed....lol but i realize that i am blowing it way out of proportion. my friend and i are both 26 years old and known each other since we were 4 years old and there has always been a innocent rivalry between us, i guess i am just tired of always losing...lol
thanks for all the ideas, if you can think of anything else, let me know!
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Kevin
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
21:45:36
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Talk to Duner :)
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JayDog
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
21:54:48
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Put a supercharger on it, and dual 250 shots of NOS. End of losing.
PS. You might have to sell your computer, tv, furniture, some other appliances etc.. to do this
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
22:19:03
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yeah, i read about Duner's truck. that is a very fine piece of work that he has done. i can honestly say that it is one of the most impressive things that i have ever seen. he has become an idol for us 4.7 guys...lol. my funds just wont alow me to do any major mods right now.
i guess next time i race him, i will just run his A$$ off of the road...j/k
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Kevin
Dodge Dakota
12/06/2001
22:21:34
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LOL, good idea!
Kevin
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
12/07/2001
01:08:28
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well, he probably just has a faster truck
motor trend got a 15.8 out of the quad 2wd 4.7
they also have a 16.0 listed for a Silverado 5.3 extended cab 4x4, so the 2wd is prboably lighter
mods respond better on bigger engines and the 5.3 pushes 285 hp from the factory, thats a lot of power.
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/07/2001
09:27:17
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yeah, i realize that; but i am going to keep trying! :) the funny thing about the whole thing is that he is a police officer but he still wont hesitate to race (as long as it is on a back road somewhere and away from others) but i am still trying to talk him into letting me race against his police cruiser just for kicks, but he totally refuses that......lol
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Anthony G
Dodge Dakota
12/07/2001
09:31:48
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You could also try racing him without the jet chip. I never liked Jet chips, what gas are you using?
Race with a 1/4 tank, less weight.
Race with Spare removed, less weight.
Try Power Braking for better take off.
What kind of weather did you race in? Buy a IAT adjuster from Speedtweaks, only $32.50 after shipping. Heard good results, I just ordered one myself.
Make sure your A/C was off or defrost. Dumb question but it happends.
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/07/2001
10:21:54
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when we ran, i was at about 1/2 tank, he actually had damn near a full tank, both had our spare tires attached, we didnt power brake, but i held the rpms just before the rear broke loose, it was humid, about 74 degrees F,
i was looking into buying an IAT adjuster, but something about cutting the facory wires just scares the hell out of me...lol my a/c was off.
but i do have the 70mm and 4" z-tube on the way, plus i am about to have some 3.92 gears installed. i think the main thing i need to do is what R.Middleton said, shift manually so i get into the higher rpm bands. thanks for the help
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
12/07/2001
13:41:25
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If you race his police cruiser then you will REALLY find out how it feels to lose. :-}
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kota on 20s
GenIII
12/07/2001
23:19:24
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how far did he beat you?
Eric
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/07/2001
23:21:41
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mopar does not compare to chevy's . Learn your truck and break it in and you'll showw who's boss no mods nesssecery
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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li blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
03:08:24
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don't beat him...he'll give u a speeding ticket
lol
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
11:07:19
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he barely beat everytime.
at least my truck looks better than his lol
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R. Middleton
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
19:46:09
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You probably have a good shot at his cruiser as I believe most of them are geared for top end rather than good acceleration. But most likley he's worried about beeing caught in the act, can you imagine what his boss/sargent would do to him? 8-)
I still say to remove as many variables as possible you have to take him to the Dragstrip. Glad to hear my advice has helped I'm always pleased to help if I can.
Stay sane,
Stay Strong!
Middy.
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li blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
20:32:51
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ok you people are morons if u think a dakota even has a shot at a police cruiser.
I mean come on. I like daks too, but lets face it... they're not corvettes
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
21:41:25
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i know i wouldnt have a chance against his cruiser, (hell, i have a hard enough time trying to beat his pick-up truck lol) but i just give him a hard time about it....i know he would NEVER be that irresponsible to race his cruiser.
btw, i have 4.11 gears on order :)
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surferpug
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
22:46:04
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hey when your doing the TPS mod, what are you turning to adjust the voltage?
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nextgen
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
01:19:48
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Ok boys heres the deal a dak could take a crown vic police car in a 1/4 mile shoot-out, a dak would get its a$$ handed to it, if the squad was a Caprice. I normally drive the Caprices when I'm at work, but I had to drive a Crown Vic the other day (my squad was in the shop getting a tune-up) and I can say my Dak would easily take it....The Crown Vic would take off after the 1/4 mile though, and the caprice would just keep going....WHY DID CHEVY STOP MAKING THOSE AGAIN?!?!?! The Caprice Interceptor is the smartest thing Chevy ever did, and the stupidest was getting rid of them....
Tony
2000 4X4 4.7L Auto SLT +
Jet Stage II, Z- Tube
Custom Exhaust, Extang Soft Tonno
32X11.5X15" BFG All-Terrain A/T Ko's
16.2@80mph
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
09:41:21
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This thread is turning into a dakota vs patrol car thing. Nextgen, I dont know what kind of POS youre Dept. runs, but If you cant take a Pickup truck from a dead stop then you should think about getting new pursuit cars. The Caprice weighed about 900lbs more than the CrownVic, Handled like S*it, and was more expensive. Most were TBI, and the only ones worth a d*mn were the TPI models. The current police package LTD has the 4.6 in it, along with drive line components not available to the average joe. In pursuit, you leave the tranny out of OD. They also have dual exhaust, and heavy duty trannys standard. What most people dont know is that Police agencies can order a whole slew of go fast goodies on them as options. 3.93 gears are standard. Our supervisors drive new ones and they flat out haul a$$. Now a real POS is the FWD. Chevy malibu. but thats another time.
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Brian D
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
12:21:02
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Caprices, huh? Did ya forget the 9C1 Package for 94-96 Caprice...it had the LT1,h/d tranny, oil cooler and h/d suspension. It was basically an Impala SS in plain wrapping.
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1Fine5.9
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
12:51:19
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all this talk about cops and cop cars is freakin me out guys, if you had 15 points you would feel the same way as me, guess its my fault huh
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rez
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
14:41:10
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buy a ford light-n- thing, oops, here we go again.
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Quadak
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
21:03:41
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KLC,
The hypertech programmer is the difference. I know for a fact that it does wonders for the chevy 5.3. If I were you, I would look at the hypertech programmer for my 4.7. Don't sweat it, if he gives you a hard time, tell to take the hypertech off and run for money. If it was a close race, within 1 truck length, you'll beat him
without it.
I have a Quad Cab with a 5.9 that runs best of 14.95. I have yet to lose to any chevy 5.3, 4.8, 5.7 or even a stroked 350 (383). My best 60 ft time is 2.0. Do you have sure grip? I have found the best launch is power break to 1200 RPM then go, any more and you spin. 4.7 may be little different, just test it for your self.
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Klc
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
09:38:00
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Quadak,
i figured the hypertech had alot to do with it. hell, he was even able to raise his shift points with it. hypertech doesnt have a programmer for the 4.7 yet (not that i am aware of). i would ask him to undo his program settings to race him, but it is too big of a pain in the butt to reset everything. i dont know what kind of times mine would run, but im sure it is quicker than it was 2 weeks ago. since then i put a 70mm tb, 4"z-tube, and 4.10 gears, it really seemed to wake it up. i will let the computer learn everything for a while and i will give him another run, and see what happens, thanks for the help.
btw, i do have a LSD.
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carhart32
Dodge Dakota
12/25/2001
23:19:28
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i have a stock ex cab chevy 5.3 i will put up to your 4.7 any day put a 100 bill on it i have a friend who has a 5.3 just like mine but with the hyper tec and thermostat underdriver pulleys differnt injectores k and n cold air and flows and he hangs till about 60 then im gone till 99 then my shuts off but if raced many 4.7 and 5.9s and stoped all over them till 99 dont know what it is about it the only thing is a k and n that i have
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kota on 20s
GenIII
12/25/2001
23:31:43
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ill put A GRAND on my 5.2 beating your 5.3!! been there SMOKED that!! hehehe are you anywhere near so. cal?
Eric
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4.7dak
Dodge Dakota
12/25/2001
23:52:59
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why dont they just use vipers as cop cars??
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kota on 20s
GenIII
12/25/2001
23:56:18
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why? they have ghetto birds (helicopters)
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
12/27/2001
10:25:18
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4.7 Dak, silly boy, Where would you put the perp? unless youre just talking about a pursuit car.
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