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fastyz400
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11/07/2003
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Just wanted to add my 2 cents about chevy's. I will never buy another GM product again. I use to be a die hard GM buyer. Use to always defend their products. My list of vehicles with GM as follows.
1. 91 Grand Am: Head cracked @ 60k, Cat went out at 55k.
2. 96 Camaro SS: fight oil leak for the first 2k.
2. 98 Blazer: Door handle crooked when new was replace before i took the vehicle, Vibration when new went thru 3k worth of fighting with dealer, 5k baffle broke in muffler and computer reprogramed, 8k front diff went out, 14k front diff went out again. The vehicle's interior rattled like a tin can full of change. And it wasn't my nut's rattling from the vibration either. :)
That was the last straw with GM. Now, i own a 2000 Durango with 53k, The only problem was a fogged up headlight. Only took it in once, and i don't remember the shop guys name that did it. At 53k, my D does not rattle like my 98 blazer did.
I've also read in Fortune magazine pertaining to quality. GM is at the bottom of the list.
It's just sad to say, I still like some of the GM products, but I will never buy one again. It's either going to be foreign or another Dodge product.
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Matt
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11/07/2003
15:43:23
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Anything can take a Z71 Chevy. They are tanks. My new Dakota has smoked every pickup I've run it against between stoplights. Including a Hemi 1500 Ram.
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Bryant
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11/08/2003
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I support dodges, esp. dakotas, but matt, i'm gonna have to call a bullsh*t, sorry bro. wont say anything more, just that.
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Matt
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11/08/2003
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Oh, no! Calling bullsh*t! Well, Consider that a Hemi Ram when tested by Truck Trend did 0-60 in 6.8 seconds A 5.3 4x4 1500 Silverado 5.3 Vortec did 7.8 secs. The last test I read of a Dakota was a 2wd QC 4.7 Auto that did it in 7.4 seconds.
My truck is a CC 2wd 4.7 Auto and I know how to drive. Come to Milwaukee and race me sometime, Bryant!
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Bryant
Dodge Dakota
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11/08/2003
19:26:19
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alright matt, no big deal, atleast you have stats to back it up. congrats, you are the victor. wasn't tryin to pick any fights or anything, but if i could go to milwalkee, just for the sport of it i would race you. Since mines a gen 1 longbox 3.9l 5spd, you'd tear me up, but it'd still be worth the sport of it all. Also never said you didn't know how to drive ;) But i also, know my way around pretty good.
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Matt
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11/08/2003
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Well, I have to admit to a bit of an unfair advantage: I'm using BFG Drag radials, and when cruising I only run 18 psi of air. And the Hemi Ram 1500? He had the big 20 inch tires. Low profile meat is a disaster in terms of straight line acceleration. Once he hooked up, he was real fast!
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Silver1
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11/25/2003
17:29:30
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Matt..."bullsh*t!!! I've got something to shut your story telling whiney-ass up.....2004 Silverado "SS", 400 ponies!!!! Should be out around Feb,'04. Now I'll go get my hip-boots on for your reply.
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capone
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11/25/2003
18:21:57
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Who really cares about which truck is "better". It depends on what you use it for anyway. Plus we just drive what we like and who gives a sh*t what it is. If you want to see who's faster, then race someone. It doesn't matter as long as your truck does what you need it to do. If you need it to beat a z71 for some reason, then give it a shot, if you lose, then mod it until you can. It would just be fun to race anyhow, no matter who wins.
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Z71Silverado
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11/30/2003
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everyone wants to take a Z71, well anyone who is willing to try can come after me. i'll line them up without any questions win or lose. but just for the fair warning, its not stock. the bigest thing i've done is an ATI Intercooled ProCharger, at last dyno wich was last night 11/29/03 396 rwhp, and 392 rwlbs of torque @ 9 lbs of boost, on a 2001 ext. cab Z71 5.3L its est. flywheel hp is 483hp and 478 lbs torque. but for all the power, it did cost a little bit of $ but for the satisfaction of beating a 2002 ford lightning.... it was more than worth it.
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MoparMadness
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11/30/2003
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Silver1
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Matt..."bullsh*t!!! I've got something to shut your story telling whiney-ass up.....2004 Silverado "SS", 400 ponies!!!! Should be out around Feb,'04. Now I'll go get my hip-boots on for your reply.
Someone has been misreading their stats, the SS is only rated at 345 hp, still not bad, but in a recent Motortrend comparison of the SS vs a Hemi Ram, the editors at Motortrend said that they would take the Hemi Ram over the SS any day.
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Dude
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12/01/2003
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MoparMadness.....
The 03 SS is already out, and yes it is rated at 345hp. But, as Silver1 said, in Feb 04 they are 'suppose to' realease the 2004 400 hp version of the truck and make it a "real" SS. I think that is what he was referring to. Too bad Ford has to boost their vehicles to make ponies. Could you imagine an SS, R/T, Hemi, C-5 vette, etc with 8-10 lbs of boost. Ford wouldn't know what to do! Except learn how to eat exhaust and dust.
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kRaSh
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12/01/2003
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Z71Silverado,
Do you know is Chevy still using the 5.3L V8???
I was extatic when I found out they were bringing back the 327(now323). But I havent heard much talk of them lately.
Speaking of bringing back awesome motors, I want an available 340 for the Dakotas ;)
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RamMan
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12/01/2003
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you guys whine alot, Ill tell you about the
hardships of owning a dodge vs. chevy. Ive
owned 5 fullsize chevy trucks 88-98 bodystyle
including one seriously tweeked 98 stepside
and all of them held up to the abuse of
constant smoking of the tires well at least alot
better than my 01 Ram, It was in the shop 27
times before I voided the waranty 23 of those
times was 4 the tranny hey Im on my 7th
shiftlikage and you know what this Ram is a
lemon obviously but I guarantee you light to
light there isnt a 5.3 around who hasnt got a
good look at my tailgate. So the question
really isnt which of the big 3 (chevy ford dodge)
is better the question is which one of them
makes the best product 4 what you wanna
build it brakes down to which one do you think
looks the best because you can always make
more power
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sliver1sucks
Dodge Dakota
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12/06/2003
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what good is a 400hp truck that has a case of rod/piston slap so bad it sounds like its gonna blow up against the newest Ram comming out with the 525 hp Viper engine? what a ignorant moron, no way will 400 hp and less then that torque gonna keep up with anything weighing the same and a 125 hp and a large torque advantage, now you whinny little boy go back to your mommies apron strings and suck your thumb somemore. AS far as a boosted engine, take that soon to come out 525 hp viper engined Ram with the 9 lbs boost that Z71silverrado was spoutin off with and run his arse even up any day, Mopars best gas engine against GMC's best gas engine and 9 lbs boost for each, what could be more fair?
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Z71Silverado
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12/07/2003
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Piston slap? never had any probs with all the GM's I've owned or other family/friends. But have yet to see a quality product from dodge, nothing compares to the ride, handling, and all around comfort of a GM. And I can't wait to see the proposed price of this new Ram with the Viper engine! I hope its not near the price of a Viper, cause hell I could spend all that money on something and make it faster and more powerful than the viper. and what exactly do you drive Mr. American Badass Silver1sucks?
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andy m
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12/09/2003
20:50:18
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Just wanted to comment on all the truck
comparisons.I recently bought an'03 Hemi
ram truck due to the fact that my '01 Z71
was in a bad accident.I must say after owning
2-'98 z71s,1-'00 z71,1-'01 z71 & my '03 ram,
I am pleased not having to pay an extra 2k for
a truck that doesn't have the kind of quality
the price demands.I just don't see what GM has
that Ford & Dodge don't(except a junk diesel)
They are pricing themselves out of the truck
market and losing loyal customers,namely I.
GM,wakeup,you just don't have what people are
willing to pay extra for!!By the way,every GM
truck I had was low mileage(less than 40k)and
all of them were in the shop multiple times for
something!!
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andy m
Dodge Dakota
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8/09/2004
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I sleep with men in the back seat of a Dodge quad-cab.
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Silver1
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8/09/2004
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"Silver1sucks"....you suck!! The dodge has to use the big giant gas guzzling 10 cyl "Viper" engine in it's SRT and Ford has to put a blower in it's Lightning...and they both cost $40k and up!! That's rediculous!!! Chevy produced about 900 trucks in 2004 called the "Vortec High Output". It has the 6.0 High Output engine (same as the Silverado SS except this truck is 2wd) producing 345 HP and 380 Torque, it gets 19.2 mpg on the highway (I know because I happen to own one of these gems) and I only paid $25k for it. With about $8k worth of mods, such as 10.5:1 heads, cam and blower, it would smoke the SRT and the lightning and still cost about $10k less. I believe GM is going to build a few thousand of them in November for the 2005 model year. Suck Dat bitch!!!
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dakondubbz
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8/09/2004
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isnt there a gm website lost boy
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