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Justin P
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
21:17:56
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Hey guy's what do you think about that. A 4.7L Dakota v/s a 4.6L Mustang in the 1/8. Well I'am just trying to get some input to see what you guy's think, here's the deal, I have a 2001 Dakota w/ a 4.7L; QC; auto;3:55 with some mods:(note) I don't plan-on going to the strip until next year when I have my 70mm TB along with my custom 4" intake pipe w/ a "Xtreme high flow K&N filter". Tube looks awsome though, it is made from the flex pipe that 18wheelers use for their exhaust, made from stainless steel $36 for a 4"X4' pipe. But anyways along w/ the TB and intake pipe I will have a IAT adjuster, and a 40 series flowmaster exhaust. So what do you guy's think me and my mods against a bone stock 4.6 Mustang.
Justin P
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toast
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
21:42:10
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You are going to get so creamed it won't be even funny.
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DMSDAK
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
21:48:28
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Guys I dont know the difference in power levels in the 1998(think its like 245?)-2001(Possibly 260?) Mustangs but my 2001 4.7L RC Dodge Motorsports Edition Dak with a 3.92 and 5 speed stayed ahead of a 98 GT and he couldnt pass my tailgate! Although I know there is a big difference in the weight of our trucks and all. All I had done to mine at the time was a k&n drop in filter (now an airaid kit). We were going up a fairly steep grade crossing over from Virginia to Kentucky and were hitting like 110 or so and he took all he could take and just let off :-)! I love it when people get mad cuz a truck beats them!
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jay
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
22:39:33
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98 mustang gt's were down alot in power compared to the 2000 and 2001 gt's .... the new gt's have 260 hp and 302 ft/lbs not sure on the 98's but i don't think it was anywhere near 260 so you could have very well of beaten a 98 but i owned a 2000 gt and i'd have to say that you'll get your a*s handed to you big time especially if the stang is a 5-sp actually it doesn't matter either way an auto will still spank ya but i'm not trying to be an a*shole or nothing but in reality you drive a truck and in no way should you even consider trying to race a sports car that weighs alot less then your truck, even if you have mods it won't matter the stang will still pull on you.... i got rid of the stang because it was just too much of a headache to deal with on a daily basis, don't get me wrong it's a beautiful and powerful car but it's just not a good daily driver nor is it a practical car to drive unless you can afford to own another car in addition to the mustang.... fast car, good handling, good looks, sucks in snow, rain, dirt, sand whatever.... i loved it but hated it but to say the least i miss it and would still get another one just not right now, maybe when i'm 40, who knows
jay
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cdartgo
Dodge Dakota
10/30/2001
08:33:18
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My bone stock QC 4.7 2wd auto with 3.55`s ran a 15.8 Sunday at the track, I`m sure a GT will go a 15.0 or better
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FastRT8Dakota
Dodge Dakota
10/30/2001
09:22:47
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One of my friends owns a 2001 GT Convertable and two of us fellow Dakers took him on going down Telegraph. (come to Metro Detroit, you'll see what Telegraph is..) Basically, its a 4 lane "street dragstrip" full of hot rods and cops during the summer. Anyways, my friend with the 2000 R/T (bone stock) revved first, then me (2001 4.7, light mods), then my friend in the GT picked up on the fact that we were going to race. He let the 2 daks leave first. I hung with the R/T in 1st, then we hit 2nd at the same time and he was gone. Put 1/2 a truck length on me in a heartbeat. Then we heard vrrrrrrooooommmm and saw the gt go flying by. Keep in mind we are both mid 15second trucks and he passed us like we were sitting still. So theres your arguement. both 4.7 vs 5.9 and Dak vs. Stang
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Rockn blk daj
Dodge Dakota
10/30/2001
13:39:52
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Hey guys a 98' gt mustang has 225 horsepower I know this because I once taped days of thunder off of tv and they had a mustang commercial on and they advertised it as 225. Hope that helps!
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1Fine5.9
Dodge Dakota
10/30/2001
15:08:30
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When it comes to the 98 GTs, all I can do is laugh, when I first got my truck, bone stock CC 1999 R/T, a friend at school wanted to race me with his 98 GT with dual flows and a racing chip of some sort, it was the second day I had it so I didnt really know how to drive it, all I have to say is that he saw that beautiful a$$ end of mine all the through second and almost till 4th gear, they are no match, and even worse, when I got my pcm and air intake, I raced one and beat so bad that my 3rd gear there was so much room between us that I pulled in front of him to let him know he got smoked by a truck
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1Fine5.9
Dodge Dakota
10/30/2001
15:12:36
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But now you talk about the new GTs, in manual the run very low 14s, in automatic they run mid 14s, in convertible they run slower in whatever trans thay may have, off the line theres no tellin what will happen, back when I only had a pcm and air intake, I took 2 consecutive camaro ss manuals off the line and till 45 mph, after that you know what happened, but I'm tellin you, if the 4.7s can hang with the R/Ts up through 2nd gear, you have a chance in the 1/8 mile, I know my R/T is the king around here off the line
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Justin P
Dodge Dakota
10/30/2001
16:26:38
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Yeh, that's all that I'am trying to say is, that what do you think about me (and my mods v/s a stock mustang 1998-2001 does'nt matter to me just wanting input. Oh and don't forget it's in the 1/8 mile not 1/4, that can make a difference.
Justin P
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smittyt2
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
00:03:48
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I have already tried the '01 GT here in Dallas. My friend has had one for about 8 months here. You will get beat if the driver of the stang knows what he is doing. Might be close in the 1/8 but he will definitely be ahead. I have the majority of the mods you were mentioning as well. The RC or CC could be a different story though.
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Josh A. Smith
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
11:43:45
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What a coincidence. I am just the person to ask. I have a 2001 R/T regualr cab, and also a 2001 GT. And there is no doubth which is faster on the 1/8, and the 1/4. The mustang all the way, pretty impressive as compared to my old 97 GT, like daylight and dar,
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moparjoe20
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
12:23:00
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I think you will lose pretty bad, I used to help one of my friends with his '95 T-Bird(4,000lb), ran in 4.6 class in a few of the fun ford weekend races.It had a stock 4.6 with 50k , ram-air , exhaust, 2,400 stall converter , trans go shift kit , 3.73 gears , and 235/60/15 BFG Drag Radials , it ran a best of 8.82 in the 1/8 and 13.90's in the 1/4.
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Clevite 77
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
13:51:10
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hey FastRT8Dakota where are you from I live right off of Pardee. Telegraphs been under construction almost all summer, where did ya guys race? Sorry for the change of subject guys
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FastRT8Dakota
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
16:40:02
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hey Clevite, I was down in your area most of the summer. the 50s McDonalds was a good place to go and check out the cars and then around 12mid, some of us would head out to Plymouth and Outer Drive. You could only race for about 15-20 minutes before the cops would show up, butit was fun while it lasted. after that got broken up, it was mostly just stoplight to stoplight racing going north on Tele. BTW I'm in Livonia, but I go out to Taylor Auto Salvage all the time to find some parts for my other toys.
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Justin P
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
16:40:14
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Most of the newer mustangs around here are running from (around) 9.00 and have even seen up to 9.8. Its not that I realy want to race one, it's just that I want to at least run in the 9's (mid to high would be great).
Justin
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Clevite 77
Dodge Dakota
10/31/2001
20:38:10
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Hey FastRT8Dakota if you head east on Eureka until it (I think) ends in that area is a descent cruse area. a lot of punks though with only one or two mods a turbo fart muffler and some clear taillight lenses hehe. that's cool to hear someone in the area is on the same board.
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Rockn blk dak
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:29:36
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Hey your not going to believe me but a few months ago i raced my regular cab v-6 auto w/3.55 down at atco dragway here in nj. I was pitted against a freakin mustang what bad luck, well he smoked none the less but my time slips reads that in the 1/8 mile i ran a 11.253@60.45mph and he ran a 9.032@77.98mph.So I figure a v-8 dakota would definately be alot closer and I also had a bad reaction time so I thinks it very possible that you could win.Make us proud.
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Justin P
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
22:22:32
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Oh don't worry "I'll do my very best too" "you can count on that"
Thanks for the reply's guys
Justin P
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
11/03/2001
02:27:32
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2001 Stang should always beat out a Dak regardless of the Daks config. A best case senario Dak (R/T or 4.7 RC 5 speed L/S) will probably give a convertable 2001 a good run or win with a few mod's perhaps even give an auto a good run but not a manual. The early 4.6's however and most STOCK 5.0 are ussually prey for our Daks.
As some have said I race every car that pulls up beside me so I say this from experience. LOL
With the amount of money you have left over buying a Dak a charger will easily tip the scales if you don't mind losing your warranty. Beside there just seems to be something special about blowing the doors off a sport car with a stock truck.
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Bob
GenIII
11/03/2001
18:06:30
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Jeffster Jeffster,Man I wish you could prey on this...YOU SEE THAT MUSTANG NEXT TO MY TRUCK IN MY DRIVE WAY,that little old 1989 5.0 dr with no internal mods WOULD NOT LOOSE TO ANY STOCK R/T OR 4.7 around,I'll even give them a couple of mods{no blower's}thank you.
All I ever here you do is bad mouth Mustangs,you need to get your *ss wiped by a nice stock looking MUSTANG old or new,you need to stop racing little old lady's and school buss.
If you first don't succeed,than skydiving isn't for you.
Zoom zoom zom
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Wayne
Dodge Dakota
11/04/2001
12:28:39
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Well, I just can't sit on the side lines any more so here goes. Justin P. - A few weeks ago I was at the track and a friend of mine was running a truck just like yours except it was a CC. He seemed to drive it well and was in high 15s. That same night another friend of mine brought his brand new (476 miles) completely stock Mustang to the track for some base numbers. His first run was 13.9s and his best run was 13.7s. I know this is 1/4 mile but the difference will be 1/2 as bad in the 1/8th. The numbers for 1/8 are on the timeslips.
As far as the rest of you guys that brought up earlier Mustangs, my oldest son had a '95 GT (lowest H.P. rating in recent years and heavier than previous model)and in stock form it ran 14.9s. I have only seen one stock Dak run better than that and he was a stripped RC 4.7/manual trans/3.92. The newer 4.7s with the 16 inch rims don't seem to be able to run in the 14s in stock form. Just like us Dak owners, Stang guys don't leave'em stock either if they are gonna race them. If you beat a Stang with a Dak in a even start 1/4 or even a 1/8 mile, you must assume that you are (a)a better driver or (b) his car is running bad.
For you Lightening beaters - We raced my son's Y2K model last Friday night. Completely stock except we raised the air filter lid 1 inch to bypass the filter. 13.7, 13.6 X 2, & 13.5. I would have to add blower or juice to get near him with my Dak. If all you got is a throttle body spacer and a Flowmaster, then you better stay on the porch. You can't run with that big dog. Keep in mind that all info I have posted is based on actual times and with drivers that are experienced at racing. We race trucks, cars, and motorcycles and brand names don't matter.
Hey Bob - You ought to see the 650 H.P. Cobra kit car we are building. It's gonna weight about 2000 pounds. Blown 347 stroker. :-) Body goes on real soon.
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Bob
GenIII
11/04/2001
17:43:39
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Thank you Wayne,good to hear from you and to hear some intelligent facts and information on cars and trucks.I know when you speak,it is not about racing little old lady's and school busses.
Wayne that Cobra sounds like a very cool ride,could you e-mail me a picture?
Get a new car for your spouse-it'll be a great trade!
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
11/05/2001
00:12:22
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Ok diick head I guess I am just lying then. What I have to gain from lying I don't know. Where did your car come into this?? WHEN THE FUCCK DID I SAY I BEAT YOUR MUSTANG ????????????????????????????????
I don't care about that POS car parked beside your Dak. Really I don't. In fact I love the new Stang Cobra's. Really I am not lying about that either. The DOHC 32 valve is very impressive They would roast my truck as would many of the local 5.0's out there. The fact is however I have beaten many of them. NOT ALL!!!!!!!!!! Get it?? I have no reason to lie.
Take the shiit out of your ears and listen to what I have said before you flap your gums and put words in my mouth and call me a liar.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
11/05/2001
00:32:51
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Here's Wayne's quote Bob.
As far as the rest of you guys that brought up earlier Mustangs, my oldest son had a '95 GT (lowest H.P. rating in recent years and heavier than previous model)and in stock form it ran 14.9s. I have only seen one stock Dak run better than that and he was a stripped RC 4.7/manual trans/3.92.
My Truck is a 2001 R.C 4.7 Sport 3.92's Trac Lock NO A/C. I also have a few mod's to boot
It ran 15.5 with both a burn out and a missed shift on the same run in the summer!!!! Should easily get mid to high 14's now that I have some more experience with this transmission.
Ah ya that does beat some stangs. Many are listed as running 14.9- 15.2 through all of the 90's models. Convertables often listed mid 15's.
More lies???
Ya I am probably lying about that also.
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Jonathan
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2002
15:06:26
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Look i have a 2001 mustang gt, with exhaust on it and thats it. I ran a 13.9 in the quarter. Thats all i gotta say. You would get smoked....bad....
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Jonathan
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2002
15:10:05
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Oh yeah its a 5-speed, and the best times on the track come from the best drivers....You can smoke all the mustangs on the road u want, but i bet anything you put the right person behind the wheel and any dodge truck besides the lightning would get burned bad.......
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Demon Dakota
DakotaEnthusiast
10/09/2002
16:03:46
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Like I've stated to many a person on this web site before. I race some bone stock GT's. One is a 2000, the other a 2002. The '00 Ran a best time of 13.95 absolutely dead stock at commerce (tires and all). I can get you the slip if you want. The '02 Ran a best of 13.98 bone stock (tires and all). I raced my buddy, me in the '00 and he in the '02, and we pulled 13.95 & 13.98 again (he ran exactly the same as me in the 2002). Maybe the '00 is a mutant, but they are all stock 260 HP crank. End result is that even in the 1/8th, the '01 GT would win. It won't be really close (about 1/2-3/8's of a second difference).
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noname
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2002
17:10:13
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the 2002 stang GT in the car and driver ran 15.1 in the 1/4
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afi360
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10/10/2002
20:21:12
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my mommy's 2000 mustang with 9,000 miles (yes, its only a 6 cylinder) will lose to my cc r/t by a few car lengths, i believe...so i would imagine a gt would hand an r/t or 5spd 4.7 its nutsack....theres my 2 cents on this rather volatile message board :)
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Spunky
Dodge Dakota
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10/10/2002
22:58:22
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Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics. Even if you win your still retarded.
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