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Black R/T
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Kerleyfries ... when you are going to lie make it somewhat believable or not even the kids on here will believe you..
Quote: i roll rts up all the time. infact one of my best friends has an rt with: heads, cam, m1, 52mm tb, headers, full exhaust, no cats, electric fan, roller rockers, 3500 stall, slicks and only ran a best of 14.70's.
Go tell someone else your stories and maybe they will believe them.
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Mithrac
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5/03/2003
13:29:42
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Stuff like this is great. Does it matter what people write on boards? No it doesn't. When they pull up next to an R/T at a light that is when it matters. If anyone that has a 4.7 in the delaware area on this board post here. I will be glad to run you. If I lose I don't care I will post it. Just stop posting crap on these boards.
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buying a rt
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5/03/2003
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hey im in the delaware area i DO NOT own a dakota but will as of tuesday next week anybody interested in getting up for a drive when i get itlet me know always nice to have people to hang with specialy when you share the same car
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Joey
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5/03/2003
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yea if there is anyone in CT with a 4.7, i wanna race u... i got a regular cab r/t. im 19 and most people in CT are fukin fags and wont race. all my races are when i go down to queens. but yea if anyone wanna meet up, ill show u wat a 5.9 will do to a 4.7 but there aint gonna be no hating, we all got the same truck lol gotta be cool wit each other.
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Mithrac
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5/03/2003
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Buying a Dakota,
What part of DE do you live in? I am in Bear. I have problems finding anybody who is really into cars down here. I have an 89 stang too that I race frequently at Cecil. When you get your Dakota we'll have to make the trip down.
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kerleyfries
Dodge Dakota
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5/13/2003
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BLACK RT.... I wish i had the time to drive wherever you live and kick your stupid trucks ass. never once have you posted anything about your super fast ride. whats a matter dont want anybody to know that you have absolutely nothing done to your pos??? and just for your info i was telling the truth. he had to big of a cam. we just put in a smaller cam in and it ran 14.1's. still needs a little tuning. it should run high 13's. hopefully that will shut you up and get you off of your high horse. but i still do know one thing and that is that my truck was much faster than his stock to stock. like i posted before i ran a 14.808 @92.5mph with just exhaust. i bet that you cant say that for your BLACK RT can you????
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Seriously
Dodge Dakota
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5/13/2003
20:27:10
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The 4.7s are great motors, but they're not faster.For the people that based their beliefs on the Mopar magazine comparison, you obviously didn't read.They couldn't master the launch on the R/T. It took forever to catch traction.
EX= RC R/T w/slicks vs. RC 4.7 5speed, 3.92 gear w/ same size slicks and wheels, the 5.9's gonna stomp its ass. PERIOD
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quit whinnig
Dodge Dakota
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5/13/2003
21:52:55
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if this, if that then the 5.9 would stomp...shut up already, the 4.7 won fair and square.
EX=the fcking magazine article
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gcsupraman
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5/14/2003
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Joey - where in CT are you from?
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Black R/T
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5/14/2003
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Well Kerleyfries...
You are right I have never EVER lied about my ride, which by the way if you paid any attention just arrived SATURDAY MAY 10th.
So it would have been difficult to talk about a ride I hadn't driven yet.
Well now I have driven it and I would guess it is somewhere in the mid 15 range especially being a CC. So there you have it I am not going to sit on here and yap about it running anything better or worse until I know one way or the other.
But I will tell you this it will run much faster when i add a few goodies to it.
....you are the one who opened up the box with the statement you "Roll R/T's all the time"
Had you mentioned in your original post that his cam was to big you would have filled in the missing piece, but then that likely means he will kick your $ss once he has it all sorted out.
Now I know you will just argue this like everything else posted but who really cares.
Now if you want to run my truck with it's guesstimated time of mid 15's I'm in Toronto feel free to come kick my $ss, just enjoy it while there's still time.
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Be Realistic
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2003
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quit whinnig..."Seriously" didn't say anything about if this if that. Seriously said that the RT couldn't hookup and so the times are not comparable. His example simply creates a realistic scenario for producing COMPARABLE track times. IMO, the 4.7 did not win fair and square if the 5.9 was having traction problems and nothing was done to compensate (like a better driver maybe, the RT times are kind of high anywayz).
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Mr.H
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2003
13:27:31
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THat's just a stupid topic to post a discussion about dude!!
The 360 has so many different heads manufactured in mass quantity right now it aint even funny!!
A 360 can turn 400 hp N/A EASY with the right bolt ons (heads, etc.)
That's just a stupid thing to say when the most I've heard coming from the 4.7 was MAYBE 300 all motor so far.
Stock VS stock, the 4.7 5 spd will win, but there are R/T's with stroked 360's running 10's out there!!
Try finding a stroker kit for your 4.7 other than that German company that wants like $20,000 for the motor!!! There aint one. Point stated.
The 4.7 is NOT faster than the 360 period.
BUT, if you want to have an efficient motor that's fast, just turbocharge the 4.7 and turn down the boost when cruising, that's a lightning eater that'll run 12's. But by the time you spend the cash to break into the 11's, you could've bought an old Dak and dropped a 500 hp 408 and run 11's all motor!!! You just don't have a good daily driver.
You're just stupid!!!
Don't say stuff like that cuz it makes you look bad!
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kerleyfries
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2003
15:01:33
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ok i have come to a conclusion..... it all boils down to who has the most money or which person has the richest mommy and daddy. and no sh(t that your truck will run faster with mods. isnt that what they do?? look on martys web page at krcperformance it clearly states that the 4.7l can or will produce up to 450 hp naturally aspirated. i dont know about you guys but i think that he has a little more experience than any of us. but there you have it, we too can make the power that you can and get there just as fast if not faster. we weigh less and we have the option of having a 5sped. its not our fault that your guys's trucks have terrible combinations from the factory. i have been beggin my buddy to put a 5spd in his 99 rt. with all of those mods that truck would absolutely fly. but keep in mind he has spent a lot of money in that truck. a rc, auto, heavy ass truck is not quite the greatest combo that i have ever seen
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Kevin
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5/14/2003
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If a R/T can get traction there would be no contest. Traction is the biggest problem with an R/T because of the 345 pound-feet of torque. Don't get me wrong the 4.7 is a great engine and matched with a 5sp and a good driver I'm sure they would give and R/T a good run, and with 55 pound-feet of torque less you have a much better chance of getting more traction faster.
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Black R/T
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5/14/2003
16:28:32
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We all need to spend a little more time on here racing the competition NOT each other.
Both the 4.7 and 5.9 are excellent motors. Bottom line is we all have a personal preference. Some like the 5 speed, some like an auto, some like the SLT, some like a 4X4, some like the R/T.
It's all personal choice!
But there is no overwhelming speed difference either way between a STOCK 4.7 based truck and the 5.9 based truck. But seeming most people on here want to race to some extent it's more of a race down to a lower 1/4 mile then your neighbour.
Let the games begin!
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LTU Dak
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5/14/2003
20:51:46
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Anyone with a 4.7 in the North Louisiana area that wants to try me just hit me up, I'll be at twin city drag in Monroe, LA on may 23. The 5.2 is a sneaky fast little devil, you'd be surprised. After driving both, my vote goes for the 5.2 any day.
5.2 CC Auto 3.55
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LTU Dak
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21:04:02
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Don't you think there is something good about the 5.2/5.9, otherwise DC probably wouldn't have kept producing them for, i don't know 50 years maybe? just seems kinda odd that they would keep such a CRAPPY motor around for that long.
would somebody race 4.7 Rules to shut him up, why doesn't he grow some ballz and race another brand of vehicle, to me he seems worse than the ford and chevy losers that get on here and talk trash.
but oh well, everybody has there red-headed stepchild.
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02MeanR/T
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21:25:35
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my buddy has a 4.7 and he hates it ya know why,hes got headers ,air intake,cam...etc etc
now me on the other hand,i got fipk,m-1,52mm tb,mp 1.7 rr,apintech exaust,and viper convertor
the fact is i spnk his ass every day before we go to work.so the 4.7 owners shut your mouth and take it like men.the R/T is a better truck al around...oh and if ya want i will have him race me and i will record it and post the video just for u non belivers
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franlofter
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21:46:32
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This is funny, My 4.7 has nuts and Im sure the 5.9 does to, the fact is neither one is fast, those little imports with the V6 250 HP would spank both, get one of those if 0-60 is your main concern, lol
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dstudly1
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I recently read an article in "Mopar" magazine, and it was the showdown between the stock reg. cab 4.7 and the 5.9. The 4.7 came out on top but only faster in the quarter mile by about a few tenths of a sec. End of story!!!
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wildcatz
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5/15/2003
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my 1.5 4 cylinder 96 mazda protege, bone stock, could stomp anything u throw at it... bring it
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2002dakotaman
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5/15/2003
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Hes right they are ive beat 5 r/ts with my 4.7 but no matter how many times theres always some stupid that doesnt see the real side. The 5.9 is old technology and you r/t guys are getting bad gas mileage to that sucks. So why dont you save some money and got get a hemi dakota or 4.7 dakota and save some time and money.
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Mr.H
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5/15/2003
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I am from West Monroe, but I'm not sure if I can make it on the 23rd due to the new job and all. I'm wonderin where you live down there??
I live in Little Rock but I have to go down there all the time.
Also, I WON'T race you without installing the Trac-Lok FIRST!! That would be plain stupid!
What mods do you have on the 5.2? I just have intake, exhaust,TPS and IAT adjuster/relocator for now.
Later,
Matt in LR
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litlpunisher
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5/15/2003
14:22:30
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how bout we just put the 5.6 against your 5.9,4.7 and see what you have to say. I don't usually talk sht but you guys have gone right out of control. Talk the talk or walk the walk.
98 Dakota
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islanderpc
Dodge Dakota
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5/15/2003
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http://www.zaxx.net/movies/12.06.wmv
http://www.zaxx.net/movies/12.12.wmv
Blown99RT RC RT and his 12.06 RT.
3rd pass-
RT- .583
60- 1.860
330- 5.081
1/8- 7.775
MPH- 90.86
1000- 10.105
1/4- 12.068
MPH- 114.9
Mods: Ported and Polished V&M racing 2.02" R/T Heads, Custom Grind Comp Cam, Gasket Matched M1 4bbl Intake, MP 1.6 RR's, Cloyes Double Roller Timing Chain, Powerdyne Supercharger w/ 2.45"pulley., 24# FMS Injectors...KN airhat..512 comp cam.
28x9x15 MT ET Drags mounted on AR Black steel rims carry too much finish line RPM.
just on the blower/exhaust/headers/and injectors,(no heads/cam) i was able to get a 12.49@109 out of it.
w/heads cam am shifting at about 5800, and going through the traps about 5700.
..12.49 without heads/cam/pcm......any 4.7's doing that?
00RT..shooting for 12's no heads/cam just bolt ons and a used powerdyne.
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Timberwolf
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5/15/2003
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Is the 4.7 a better engine than the 5.9? Only time will tell. Chrysler started making the original A 318 on which this engine is based in 1957. In 1964 they developed the LA which has remained unchanged through the present. That's 47 years. Over the years this block spawned many different motors including the 273,340, and the 3.9 V6. Although the original 5.2 is no more, the basic platform still remains in the 5.9 and the Viper V-10. Now as far as which one is faster. The 5.9 has more Hp and more torque and if installed in identical vehicles, would be faster. I've never seen them run against each other, but theory backs up the 5.9 guys.
"I'd rather be fishing"
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Seriously
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5/15/2003
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Comparing the 4.7 to the 5.9 is like this:
Pontiac Trans Am 6speed to a Pontiac Trans Am WS6 6speed.
Common sense says... WS6 wins.
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gotanRT
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5/15/2003
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01Motorsport
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5/15/2003
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Family fueds suk. I love Mopars, period.
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MikeD
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5/16/2003
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I've said this before but when I first test drove the 4.7 and 5.9 from a dealership the same day by far the 5.9 felt the strongest the 4.7 felt really weak the 5.9 felt stout, thats why I chose it. I went in w/ no biased opinion just bought what I thought felt the strongest. Period.
~Mike~
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