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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
02:42:02
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some guy in my neighborhood told my friend that he wants to race me. not for cash or anything, he just wants to know how fast his truck is compaired to another.
his mods are: (just what i know, he might have more)
98 tacoma, supercharged v6, 5speed (i think)exhaust, and he is running a de-arched mono leaf spring with an air ride suspencion, on 18" rims
my mods are:
98 5.2, 5speed, 3.62 posi (my rim/tire brings the 3.55 to a 3.62), 14" k&n intake, 50mm TB, 1.7 rockers, 180 t-stat, 3923's, and mopar cat-back.
my best time without the 1.7's was 14.92@92mph
I think he will beat me because his truck is lighter, but he is running a mono leaf, so i think he will have major wheel hop. What do you guys think?
Eric
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Anthony G
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
09:35:34
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Wow, A SC 3.4L? Is he crazy? That's a 9.6:1CR ratio engine. It's either a very quick Tacoma or a bad running one.
Possible setups:
He has a rebuilt engine that has a reduced CR, SC With Intercooler, new rear clogs with LSD or posi and a good centerforce clutch system. New engine management system. Now that would beat you.
Now the setup you say his running, that 9.6:1 cr with forced air would cause major ping unless he running very very low boost. Second I think Tacoma's come with an open diff.
Well, if you can do 14's you might be him.
Aren't Tacoma's 16 second trucks? Just go race him and see.
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Jon McCuskey
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
11:50:50
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Well actually these Toyotas handle those superchargers very well. It depends on his injectors. My best freind has a T100 with the same engine as the Tacoma and it has the TRD supercharger, TRD headers and exhaust, GM 4 core radiator, and Downey intake. He also has the boost gauges inside. I have driven this truck thousands of miles myself b/c of road trips etc. It runs very well. He has gone through three rearends and two trannies, but Toyota gladly replaced them for free. Now here is where the problem comes in. We live at 6000 feet and about 45000 of his miles were at this altitude, then we moved to sea level, SAn Luis Obisbo, CA. He wasn't putting enough fuel in the engine and he aluminized his exhaust the hard way. He was running so lean at sea level it wasn't funny. Those engines will run like mad especially in those Tacomas.
I know this is a Dakota post but if anyone is ever curious about those Toyotas shoot my buddy an email
jwelch@calpoly.edu
He is one smart man.
Just thought that might help, of my 2000 4.7L 4x4 Dak w/ 3.92 and 5spd spanked his T100. Mine was stock.
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Jon McCuskey
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
11:52:40
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Oh, one more thing, take off the 20's and put on lighter wheels, then youll destroy him. One pound of rotating weight = 7lbs non rotating weight.
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
12:12:20
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Uhhh, I think you might get smoked. There was a SCed Tacoma at the track a couple of weeks ago and it was running 14.60s. That was in bad conditions here in the heat of the desert. I'm sure that it would run close to 14.0s with decent air. You might as well give him a shot though....
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Robert
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
12:46:04
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14.60s huh? Well, that was a highly modified Tacoma!
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
19:09:04
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not that modified, just a SC and i would beleve 14.60's. thoes trucks are not at all heavy. thats what im worried about. mybe ill break out my g-tech tonight and get some times.
Eric
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jUSTIN
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
20:19:13
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Hey man, so someone on you're street heard about the info, and facts that you gave me, when I had mentioned something about racing a toy. No I have'nt raced him yet but the time is coming, I decided that I was going to put my 70mm TB from Bernd on first, and then if he want's some, then he came get what he has been asking for! So,now you think that you want to race one, and on top of that, he has a s/c. With you're mods, and his, I'm pretty sure that he would win, but, both of you do have 5spd's, you have one tough V8, belive me I use to have a 318ci, and they are great motor's, nice size ponies, w/ not a lot of weight!,and his V6 s/c, with a few more mods you should be right up there with him if not in front of him. Hey, have you got a 50mm TB, if not get one. But if I were you I would get a few more mods, before you race him, because you have to think, he has this little, lite weight truck that weighs around, 3200 to 3450 lbs, and on top of that he has a s/c, and is talking junk,....,well what-do-yah expect????...uh...now if he would allow you to put a s/c on you're truck,thennnn,that would be another story, with no questions asked. But take my advice, I would get my hands on a few more mods, and take advantage of his remark (making it even, in another words). But if you have any questions write back or write me at: justinphillips_28146@yahoo.com
see yah,
jUSTIN
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
20:22:00
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Is that SC an after market set up or does it come on the Tacoma's?
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jeffster
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
20:27:00
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Is that SC an after market set up or does it come on the Tacoma's?
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
20:28:57
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no taco comes SC'd. its a TRD supercharger, and i think its at 6lbs of boost...7 max
justin, yes i do have a 50mm TB, and i know he might win. he wasnt talking crap, and he dosent want to race for money. he just wants to see how his truck stacks up against a v8.
I just hope that with him running a mono leafspring that he will have major wheel hop and i will have the advantage. im not expecting to win. just hoping
Eric
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jUSTIN
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
23:02:36
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Well, give it a shot, hey you might even be suprised, who's to say.
jUSTIN
01;4.7;3:55;auto
flowmaster;intake;IAT
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
23:43:30
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I think your Dakota with mods should be good for much better then 14.92 even before the 1.7's. It seems like you setup driven just right would go mid 14's. If his setup were driven just right I think he still couldn't hang. My basically stock 93 5.2 auto with 3.55 gears went 14.9 with just the MP PCM, no exhaust from the cat back, and all the bumper, spare, and tailgate removed. This was on 215-75/15's!. The 5-speed and traction on that truck would have gone 14.5's easy with no other mods. Maybe you need to put your truck on a diet first.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
23:50:25
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I forgot I also had a short belt, and accell coil on my 93.
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Jon McCuskey
Dodge Dakota
9/11/2001
00:00:06
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Shave off as much weight as you can before you race. Spend some more money on mods, and go show him how we do it in America, V8 style.
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kgrgunman
Dodge Dakota
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12/04/2002
23:28:31
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there's a guy that goes to my school, that has a 2001 Taco. S-runner 3.4ltr V6, SC, headers, exhaust, 5 speed, and he's running high 13's at 102MPH in the 1/4, he's hangin' with camaro Z28's so watch out for the Taco's, their fast
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branden
Dodge Dakota
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4/23/2003
16:36:40
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hey ive got a 97 taco with a 3.4 current mods
TRD super charged,injen intake,ignition,cam, downy headers with 3" dual exhaust,droped 3" siting on 18X8" rims up front 18X10" out back with cooper cobra GTZ, and a STOCK locker i have beat a Z28, siverado,mustangGT and many other cars and trucks stop light to stop light
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afi360
R/T
4/23/2003
19:14:43
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rip him up, eric.
what happened to all the other crazy mods???
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kota on 20s
GenIII
4/24/2003
00:28:12
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we never got a chance to race him. im pretty sure i will kick his ass now that i have a supercharger...
what mods are you talking about?
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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waterpolo
GenIII
4/24/2003
12:20:28
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Eric -- how much did you drop on your times (1/8th mile and 1/4 mile) when you added the supercharger?
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kota on 20s
GenIII
4/24/2003
13:26:14
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dont know...i never ran it without the SC.
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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Daker777
Dodge Dakota
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4/24/2003
21:26:31
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Usually it goes about a second per 100hp on these trucks. Other mods done only get multiplied by the scer. I have heard of 1.7 rrs giving 3 tenths on a Scerd r/t. I, like Eric aka- king of the hohos, never ran without the scer.
Oh, fwiw I recently discovered a rc scerd tacoma near me that I inevitably will run one of these days. Cant even hear the exhaust, just a crazy electronic whine from the scer.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
4/24/2003
23:55:39
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if im the king of the hoho's, you must be the hoho god! hehehe
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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afi360
R/T
4/25/2003
01:24:04
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lol i just looked at the date from your original post eric...guess that explains what happened to the 'crazy mods'
oh well.
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franlofter
Dodge Dakota
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4/25/2003
09:57:12
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I had a takoma V6 2 wheel drive and there is no weight to the back end at all I could never punch it on take off without a smoke show, can Imagine with a SC hows that thing going to hook up?
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whoo
Dodge Dakota
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4/25/2003
10:56:28
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hey i have a , uh, rt and i have some mods, do you think, uh could i beat a ford f150? i think im lighter so i might win, uh
WHY DONT YOU JUST RACE AND FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Buddy
Dodge Dakota
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4/26/2003
00:34:28
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I think it'll be pretty close.SportTruck magazine had an article last year on installing one on a stock Tacoma w/the 3.4l and they said they ran upon an IROC while cruising(they had an open diff) and off the line it pulled ahead because of their traction issues and by the time they hit 90 they had more than three lengths.
You might win. Good luck.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
4/26/2003
01:18:40
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im pretty sure i will kick his ass now
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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Buddy
Dodge Dakota
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4/26/2003
13:39:15
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You should kill him Kota.
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D
GenIII
4/26/2003
18:18:00
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SC'd tacomas are fun, specially when you run
into an L on the 15 heading to mammoth!
crank open the bottle and the guys jaw hit the
ground ; )
2003 WRX
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kota on 20s
GenIII
4/26/2003
22:23:21
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this one isnt running near what your brothers was
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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