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dave 2
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3/12/2001
22:09:06

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i am looking to get a powerdyne supercharger for my 98 v-6. where should i get it



Bernd
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3/13/2001
00:30:32

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Contact Marty over at KRC Performance: http://www.krcperformance.com.

I just got off the phone with him earlier today on some help with a Powerdyne install on a '98 V6 that he's doing right now.

Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

dave 2
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3/13/2001
22:38:49

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where did you get yours and how much for



Bernd
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3/13/2001
23:15:10

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Purchased mine from Redline Performance (now West Coast Performance) for $2300. He's moved since then buyt Marty (over at KRC Performance) now carries them.

There are two minor modifications are required:

(1) Intake tube to the airhat needs to be shortened by about 2"
(2) Intake inlet tube needs to be about 7" longer.

HP wise, you're looking at about 65-70HP more at the rear wheels...with headers and a modified Throttle body. Stock system with just the blower is about 50HP (at the rear wheels) more. That's with the factory 6# pulley...the 9# pulley works well on the V6's and gained me about 80HP at the rear wheels.

If you're looking at geting one...either grab the Flometrics 48mm Billet throttle body or at least a stock V8 throttle body. The V6 throttle bodies don't flow enough for the blower.

- Bernd





Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

dave 2
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3/14/2001
22:24:10

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what should i do about the 7 inch longer inlet tube




Bernd
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3/14/2001
23:05:57

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Check with Randy Pile (WorldWide Performance) or Marty (KRC Performance) to see if they have some laying around in their shop.

Randy: http://www.worldwideperformance.com
Marty: http://www.krcperformance.com


Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

Stinger
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3/15/2001
15:26:20

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Is Powerdyne the only manufacturer of Superchargers for the Dakota?
In the Mustang World they are the Kmart of supercharger manufacturers and most everyone has problems with them. The Belts snap, the bearings overheat, and the weak impeller shafts bend and tear up the impeller. The Vortech and Procharger are the only one's anyone even considers. Read up on the www.corral.net site and you'll see what I mean.
BTW be happy you don't have a BMW as Dinan offers a 6# Powerdyne for over $6,000, install extra.
Not dissin' anyone just getting out the info before someone spends $3,000 they may want to know about the companies reputation.



Stinger
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3/15/2001
15:31:34

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I guess my posts aren't posting.
I won't go rewrite everything I said but if considering a Powerdyne Supercharger I would go to www.corral.net and you can get the scoop on just how these superchargers compare to Vortech and Procharger. You may reconsider.




Bernd
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3/15/2001
23:11:22

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The older Powerdyne's are what gave them a bad rap. The newer design pretty much eliminate the belt and bearing problems. Also, Paxton has seemed to have gone slightly downhill on the QA department as well. Virtech...I had too many bad experiences with them about 8 years ago. I'm sure that they've fixed them...but they left a bad impression in my head.

Personally, i've been running the Powerdyne for about 6 months now and have had zero problems with them. Many other have been running them for well over a year...also with zero problems.

Paxton won't even touch a V6 (although it's possible) and Vortech stated "We only deal with V8's". (Yeah...like that's going to stop me.)

If you want a good ATI Procharger install sheet:

http://lonestar.texas.net/~bernd/Steve.htm

This is from a very good friend (in San Jose, CA) who also was the owner and operator of the shop I used to work in. We dealt with Paxton and Vortech...this install was a pain in the a$$ and the instructions are a joke for the ATI. Performance wise vs. Cost: the Powerdyne is just as good and $1800 less expensive.

Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

BigD
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3/16/2001
10:13:24

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I know we're talking about a V6, but what would be the best supercharger for my 4.7?

2000 RC 4.7L V8

Bernd
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3/16/2001
11:10:17

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I believe Kenne Bell is the only one with one released at this time. It's actually a decent kit since they use a Mass Air Flow Meter in conjunction with the MAP to get the fuel curves correct. Not an easy install though...and not cheap either.

Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

Stinger
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3/16/2001
12:59:54

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Bernd, glad to here you've had no problems. I've been tempted by them also figuring most people tend to over spin them and cause these problems for the most part.
But in reading and talking with others they have been a very difficult company to deal with as far as warranty and customer service. Vortech on the other hand will send out free or cost only replacement parts, is very knowledgable and helpfull on the phone and offers better warranties and repair turn around time. But I guess if you never have a problem in the first place these things aren't as important.
Hell, my Toyota driving friends think my truck will die anyday cause it's American made. I wouldn't condemn anyone's choice but an informed decision is a wise decision no matter what they choose.



dave2
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3/16/2001
16:43:45

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how did you extend the inlet tube 7 inches farther? where can i get a powerdyne for 2300



Bernd
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3/16/2001
20:07:11

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I chose not to use their whimpy air filter but rather ran the tube (that comes with the kit) over the blower and sleeved it with some 4" aluminum duct tubing. I retained my 6"x9" K&N Cone. (The filter that comes with the Powerdyne is "adequate".)

Contact Randy Pile at http://www.worldwideperformanceparts.com

- Bernd



Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

Ian Pendergrass
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3/17/2001
00:40:34

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Will the stock pcm learn how to deal with the the boost?

2000 Quad Cab 3.9L V6 2/4 Drop, flowmaster, 3923 Autolites, MSD6,

Bernd
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3/17/2001
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No. The OBD-II systems on our trucks have a 1-BAR MAP Sensor. They can only understand vacuum. A 2-BAR MAP Sensor is preferred but from the folks who custom program the PCM's (and i've talked with all three of them), there's not enough room in the tables to allow for this. It hasn't really been an issue on the V8's but the V6's are more sensitive. I have a solution for this already but require some more time to fine tune it. But...you can install a S/C on your trucks and they do work very well.

Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous

kenny
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6/26/2001
02:51:17

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a legal
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A famous quote from millionaire Master P: Make a dollar out of 15 cents.





kota on 20s
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6/26/2001
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by switching from the 6lb pully to a 9 or 10lb pulley, how much strain does that put on the engine? is it safe in the long run?

Eric



bernd
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6/26/2001
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It will put more pressure on the engine...but with the right tuning and combination of parts: Roller rockers, studs or upgraded head bolts, better quality head gaskets (FelPro), and timing control...you can run up to 10# safely on a V6 or V8 on pump gas.

(Why was that "Make Real Money" thing posted? Don't people understand that the ONLY 100% gauranteed way to make money is to work for it! People have been working real jobs for a lot longer than those scams have been around...and nothing beats a steady paycheck.) ;)

1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10#

art
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7/18/2001
15:02:12

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looking for someone to rebuild paxton supercharger
in our 1996 mustang. price & approximate time
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Todd
Dodge Dakota


7/18/2001
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Death to the spammers!



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