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rocketman422
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
01:21:47
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I was thinking about getting a dodge dakota. I like there look and there are real fast with the right options. But to be fast you need a v8 which is hungry for fuel and will really boost my insurance since I am a teenager.
I am thinking of swapping either an inline 4 or v6 for a 3.5 liter v6 from a Chrysler 300m or LHS.
Can I do this?
If so can it be done without major alterations to the truck?
What kind of trim will the truck probably need to be?A slt? A sport?
If anyone has done this or knows about how to go about doing this, please post a response
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cbsdakota
Gen III
8/28/2001
12:30:51
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Ummm where do I start? First, buy a Dodge Dakota RT with the 5.9L V8. Or buy one with a 4.7 or an older one with a 5.2. They all suck plenty of gas. (So does my V6!) The 300M is front wheel drive thus making the swap practically impossible. SLT, Sport, no difference except painted or chrome bumpers and whatnot. Even a 3.9L V6 would be better suited for the Dak than a 3.5 car engine. More torque, etc. If you want power buy a truck with a big motor and beef it up.
Project QUIKV6
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BlkBird
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
18:38:35
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Have you priced insurance yet? Mine was dirt cheap on my Dakota Sport with a 5.2.
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rocketman422
Dodge Dakota
8/30/2001
14:13:01
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Hey cbsdakota! the 3.9 liter v6 in your dakota only has 225 ft. lbs. of torque. the 300m engine has 255 ft. lbs of torque at about the rpm range.
Also wouldn't i have a good chance of swapping the engine as long as i dont use the same tranny.
I mean they use they same engine as the 300m in a awd minivan.
please send response.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
8/30/2001
16:06:22
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Where are you going to get a tranny that bolts up to the engine to make it work with a rear drive truck. And i dont thing the 3.5 would make your truck a sleeper infact it would probably suck. Stick with a truck or rwd setup.
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V6 Ha, ha, ha
Dodge Dakota
8/30/2001
17:01:44
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Don't take this as a 'mean-spirited' comment, but how can you use insurance prices on a V8 (as compared to a V6) when you are basically ready to spend **A LOT MORE** on an engine swap from a 300M or LHS?
This is like the other conversation about "I can't afford the extra $600.00 on a V8 option... but I want fork over a few grand to install a blower (supercharger) on my V6 so I can keep up with those V8s".
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jesse
Dodge Dakota
8/30/2001
17:24:09
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Hay man i got a v6 3.9 cc dak and i love it, im 20 now and i got it when i was 18, you wont regret it, pluse just look around and you can find a good deal on insurance, hay think of it this way, how bad do you want to look good and belive me i get complements on my dak all the time, find a way to make ends meet, i did
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rocketman422
Dodge Dakota
8/30/2001
17:28:49
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I was going to first sell the engine i was ripping out and then buy an engine from a rearended 300m or lhs messed up in some other way.
the v8 option for a dakota is also at least $1500.
up from the v6.
in short i would buy a brand new 4 cylinder for $12,000and have a fast fuel economic engine installed and would still beat the price of a new. Dodge v8 of at least $17,000.
beleive me I have been going over this in my head for a while and have been tempted to just go and get a v8 and pay the insurance and gas prices.
so if you don't have any info on how to do the swap don't post a comment.
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Curtis
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
21:37:20
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Hey Rocketman, don't let these guys get you down. I have a '99 Club Cab dakota with a Suzuki 1.3 liter in it. It is turbo and goes real fast. I can pull a wheelie from 75 mph when I punch it. No one else beleives it until I smoke thier asses on the freeway. I can outrun Vipers and vettes on a regular basis. My son has a tricycle with a VW 1.6 liter aircooled motor on it. I had to take it away from him because he was throwing food at the table again. He outruns cops on his way to kindergarten. You outta see him going through the school zones. I make drugs in my shed. My wife has no teeth. And my daughter is also my niece. My wife has a mouth like a Hoover. I share my wife with my best friend, because friends are suppsed to share. I have a rash, but my wife thinks its just plain sexy.
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kicker01
Dodge Dakota
9/10/2001
22:52:38
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ROLF! LMAO!
'01 RC 4.7 5spd
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Adam
Dodge Dakota
11/12/2001
19:03:17
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What you're failing to realize is that the LHS, 300M engine is a transversely mounted engine utilizing a transaxle not an inline trans. You would have to pay a mechanical engineer to design a trans adapter, cross member, engine mounts, etc BIG$$$. Then you have to pay a fabricator to make all those new componets, BIG$$$. Then you'll have to get someone to remap all the perameters on your comp. BIG$$$. The overall length of your driveline will change requiring a custom fabricated driveshaft, a relcation of your shifter, a cutom length speedo cable, and possible transmission tunnel and firewall modifications BIG$$$. After all this your new creation may not even pass emissions inspection in your home state (oh yeah, I forgot to mention the custom fabbed exhaust sytem). For what you'd end up paying for all this work you could buy a V-8 Dak and have money left over. Sorry, but these are the realities of the matter and I only scratched the surface of what would be involved in the swap.
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Chris W.
Dodge Dakota
11/12/2001
19:28:44
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rOCKETT MAN, READ ADAMS POST. tHEN READ IT AGAIN AND AGAIN, AGAIN, ETC. AND THEN THROW IN ABOUT 1OOO MORE LITTLE PROBS! NOW PLEASE, DO THE RIGHT THING AND STICK WITH A TRUCK, RWD SETUP!! tHE SWAP YOU ARE PROPOSING IS EXTREMELY IMPRACTICLE. BOTH THE V-6 AND V-8 DAKS RUN VERY WELL. I'VE HAD MY 95 3.9 SINCE IT WAS NEW AND I LOVE IT!!
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
11/14/2001
16:48:44
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just turbo a v-6...good gas milage, and fast...
oh, and the 4.7 v-8 is only about $600 more than the 3.9 v-6
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Jeff M
Dodge Dakota
11/14/2001
17:17:36
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Insurance varies from state to state, but going from a v6 to a v8 in New Jersey (1st/2nd highest rates in the country) had no effect for a TRUCK. A truck by the insurance company is classified as a "work" vehicle. Now the difference in a Mustang or Camaro on the other hand is a very different story.
I would suggest talking to an insurance agent first. I am sure it varies based on state, and perhaps your age has something to do with it, but at one point I had 43 insurance points and was paying well over $6000/yr for insurance. I just got my '01 QC 4.7 w/auto and they had a nearly identical truck with the 3.9, but insurance was the same. I went with the 4.7 because the milage difference was trivial, has far more horses and it will be used to occasionally tow a boat.
Boy what a difference from my 97 Prelude... v8s certainly sound nice....
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rocketman422
Dodge Dakota
11/16/2001
16:22:26
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I appreciate your guys helping me get my head out of my ass. I posted that a while ago. I have since found a way cheap insurance company and noticed that just about every mod you put on a v8 dak improves gas mileage along with performance. thanks.
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moparjoe20
Dodge Dakota
11/16/2001
17:13:00
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Ever think of buying a used one??? Just looked at a '99 R/T w/20,000 mi for $13,000.If you want to go fast and only have $12,000 buy a used V8 Dakota.
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Rollie
Dodge Dakota
11/17/2001
05:13:23
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as far as insurance,
The insurance cost on my 2001 4.7 QC is $10/month cheaper than my '98 Eagle Talon 2.0 (non-turbo) 5-speed ESI that I traded in for the dak. Go figure! LOL
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Adam
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
09:53:18
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I just picked up a 97 Dak V-6 4X4. The truck is equipped with a standard 5 speed. I was wondering (since the local dealership is clueless) will the 5 speed bolt up to a 318,340, or 360? I want to use the truck for off-road adventures and therefore would like to retain the manual trans. I have a 340 that dyno'ed at 370 peak hp and 385ft lbs. Does anyone know it the transfer case can handle the load. I had planned on using the engine in a long term Duster project but thought "what the hell". I picked the truck up at a repo auction and the engine has a bad lifter and thought why not swap it instead of fixing it. Thanks
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Shannon
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
13:21:12
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dont forget that the prowler has the 300m's 3.5L in it, and the prowler is RWD.
go for the gold and get a Viper Crate engine :-)
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j-man
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
20:00:42
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dont worrie be happy just buy the v-b i got my 98 r/t when i was 17 and my insurence was only 250$ every 6 months but ony if they knew what i have in it now. then my insurence would really suck cause i broke down and got a viper motor it is the way to go trust me
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Bubba
Dodge Dakota
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12/19/2003
01:36:25
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has anybody heard of putting a small block V8 into a Dodge Aries
huge job, but would be worth it
what i would like to know is there a factory frame you could start with to sit the body on
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