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dude
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12/27/2004
15:43:52
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in speed? bone stock the best I've seen out of a 4.7 is a 15.3 and a 15.9 out of a 4.8. Both were regular cab, the Dodge was a 5spd and the Chevy was an auto.
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ZZ
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12/28/2004
13:30:04
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The Chevy 4.8 has more horsepower (285 VS. 235?)than the 4.7.
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Kowalski
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12/28/2004
17:15:02
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Peak hp #s never tell the whole story. What's more important is poer under the curve (throughout the rpm range); also torque #s can be more important in a heavier vehicle like a truck - peak torque for a stock 4.7 is 295.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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JC
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12/29/2004
15:58:48
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The one reply to this topic that caught my eye while nearly causing me to fall over from laugher was the individual who claims to run neck and neck with a newer MGT up to 120mph. A 4x4 qc Dakota with the mods he mentioned and 32in tires will not run with a MGT up to 120mph. Can we at least have a claim that is remotely within reason?
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dude
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12/29/2004
16:05:32
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I'm not gonna call him a liar, but I've seen GTs click off 13.9s stock
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ed
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12/30/2004
00:14:18
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I will let you know how my World products 427 sbc does for a chevy when I get it installed in the S10. warranty for 2 years and 530hp 540tq.
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Dingleberry
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1/07/2005
13:07:57
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Some of you guys are fu*kin retards. There is no way the chevy could keep up with the dakotas or the Hemi's. There is just no way. I own a Hemi 1500 and i smoke every pickup on the road, Even the Titan.
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onequick5.3
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1/07/2005
14:36:24
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Dingleberry, your name serves your intellegence quite well.
RCSB 2wd 5.3 4142 curb weight but mine weighed 4226. It makes a estimated 265 rwhp I dynoed it at 255 without the longtube headers. 265 is more than a hemi puts out stock at the rear wheel. Do the math whos gonna win a truck with more rwhp that weighs 1000 pounds lighter. And its not the Dodge just becasue it a Dodge. Have you ever raced a Lightning, Supercharged Harley Davidson Ford , Silverado SS, a Vortec High Output? Probley not. The Titan you raced was probley a quad cab 4x4. Reminder the Titan with a Flowmaster and intake is makeing around 287 rwhp!
I have respect for all makes and model that are on the road. Its not mature calling people retards just because we have a fairly quick modded truck. With the attitude and grammer that you used your probley not even old enough to drive.
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onequick5.3
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1/07/2005
14:40:08
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BTW Dingleberry
Mods are ASP pullies, KN FPIK, Borla exhaust, Dynatech Supermaxx headers system, Superchips tuner, Magnacore wires, NGK 55 plugs, corvette servo for the transmission, and a Hayden trans cooler.
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anthony
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1/07/2005
16:00:21
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the chevy trucks have always handed me my ass in my r/t that has a few mods. i dont bother racing them in my camaro.
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anthony
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1/07/2005
16:24:26
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hey onequick5.3,
get a vigilante stall converter, youll drop another 1/2 second, and you wont lose any drivability.
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onequick5.3
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1/07/2005
16:30:20
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Nelson custom tune first, then Im gonna install the TR220/220 .551/.551 and then the PI Vigilante 3200 stall, im all over the vigilante they are awesome torque converters!
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anthony
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1/09/2005
04:42:42
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who makes that cam? for a cam, i suggest that you call TSP(texas speed and performance) and get one of their custom grind cams. you tell them what you have and what you want, and they will give you the perfect cam.
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onequick5.3
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1/09/2005
15:54:59
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I have had the cam for quite a time now. Its a custom grind through Thunder Racing made by comp cams. Duration is 220/220 so the power band is moved up but it makes alot of it, The lift is .551/.551 and for 5.3 heads you wont gain that much more from lift becasue of the flow of the heads. And a 112 lobe, makes alot of power in the mid range and gives some lope to the motor. The orginal cam that I bought was what they called their OLD MAN CAM it was a 216/220 .600/.532 114 + 4 degress of advance. I didnt install it and a month later they installed the TR220 in a truck that made 340 rwhp and 339 rwtq. The cam alone made 55rwhp with no tune, after the tune they gained 80 rwhp from a cam swap!! The bad thing about the OLD man cam was (and the reason I sent it back for the 220 was it made hardly no torque at all, peaking at 305 rwtq nothing compared to the TR220 which made 339 rwtq. Of course I wont notice the amount of power that the cam makes until I get a dyno tune and a 3000 stall. BTW the guy that owns the RCSB 5.3 with the TR220, long tubes, exhasut, asp, KN FPIK, electric fans and tune with yank 3000 stall with 3.73 gears ran a 13.0 flat in the 1/4 and a 8.2 in the 1/8th
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Dingleberry
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1/14/2005
13:11:03
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onequick5.3...wow thanks for the compliment, but before you insult anyones intelligence, you better check your own. For one, what the heck does, "And its not the Dodge just becasue it a Dodge", mean. You have me impressed...and are you sure you made it past general math my truck weighed in at 4800 lbs...how is 4800 - 4226 = 1000 lbs difference...you've better do your math before you start typing...thats only 574 lbs. I wasnt saying I have the fastest truck ever...I was just stating that all the trucks I've raced I've smoked. No i haven't raced a lightning...there is no point i would lose...let me drop a superchrger in my truck...then we'll see how bad the lightning is.
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wait
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1/14/2005
21:11:41
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hey dingleberry what about the 91-92 GMC syclone?
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dude
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1/14/2005
23:26:04
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Hemmings tested out a Lightning a Syclone and an SRT-10. The "L" ran a 13.8x, the Syclone ran a 13.7x and the Ram ran a 13.18. They also had a Mach 1 that ran a 13.42 and a 2002 WS6 Trans Am that ran a 13.08. The Ram trapped 105 and the T/A trapped 108.
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onequick5.3
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1/15/2005
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Dingleberry, only 600 pounds difference! Ok go out and buy 600 pounds of sand in the back of your truck then tell me the difference it makes.
Do the math whos gonna win a truck with more rwhp that weighs 1000 pounds lighter. And its not the Dodge just becasue it a Dodge. You have to incorporate the 2 sentances together. Most people I have talked to think they are just automaticlly going to win becasue their dodge hemi ram is the best thing since sliced bread being able to smoke anything on the road.
The sad thing about it is, the Paxton supercharged Hemi is putting down around 370 rwhp becasue they cant handle lots of boost and the computer thing is holding them back. Stock Lightnings put down around 8 psi, different pulley, intake exhaust, 400 rwhp and 13-14psi is very easy. And then Lightning is running mid 12's.
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onequick5.3
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1/15/2005
17:08:35
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Some of you guys are fu*kin retards. There is no way the chevy could keep up with the dakotas or the Hemi's. There is just no way. I own a Hemi 1500 and i smoke every pickup on the road, Even the Titan.
Every pickup on the road, includes Lightning, Supercharged Harley Davidson, SRT 10, Syclone, Chevy SS, Vortec High Output Edition. Or anyother modded truck. That a pretty bold statement to say. Just read what you wrote that is why I questioned your intellegence. I have drove a Ram with a Hemi and wasnt at all impressed with the 345hp. There was a hudge lag from the start then it would start to move, but my truck is instant throttle response
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GraphiteDak
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1/15/2005
23:29:35
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When you say "intsant throttle response" when refering to a Chevy Vortec, I hope yo umean from sitting evened out at 3K RPM's THEN nailing it.
Because out of the hole those engines suck sh*t!
They are dogs from the hole then get VERY peaky at the higher RPM's. I thought I was driving a damn V-Tec rather than a Vortec LOL!!!
Anyway. I don't know much about aftermarket 5.3 parts, BUT .551 and especial .600 are HUGE valve lifts unless there is some major head work with special springs, valve stem height, etc.
If the stock vortec valves and springs could support that kind of lift I'd be surprised.
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