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Duster
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8/30/2003
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I know a few things. I work for a Newspaper company to help pay my way through getting my EE BS. Anyway, ignoring the box and straight trucks, we also use vans. WE have Dodge vans(up to year 2000) with 318's (or 5.2 Liter, depending on what you prefer). We have been starting to replace the dodges with the 5.3 Vortec GMC Vans. I tell you the GMC could take the dodge off the line, but there gas mileage is horrible and I have to add oil every week to them. I Might have to add 1 quart of oil to the dodges in a month. Not to mention the Dodges are all at least 65,000 through 100,000+ miles, vs. the GMC's roughly 12500 to 24,000. Personally I think they both have definite potential, But it is sad when none of the GM's are holding together with much less mileage.
I will give GM one benefit however, I can not stand Daimler(spelling?). You will be lucky if they even attempt to honor your warranty. Unfortunately, After the last screwing from the new company(girlfriends '02 Stratus), I could never purchase another Mopar...(I have my '69 Road Runner, '70 340 Duster, and my '98 318 Dakota, ‘02 Neon RT). The company blatantly refuses to correct there incompetent dealers, and even stands behind the stupidity! (incorrect diagnostics, and argue the factory service manual, blew my Dakota's computer by pinching the wires, and trying to blame it on me, skid plates were forgotten on the shop floor, and now refuses to even work on my truck with the recalls(last brake recall on Dakotas, had to go to another dealer)- screw Daimler Chrysler). So now I am confused where to go.
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Hmmmm
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8/30/2003
17:13:25
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So much of what you claim sounds like horseshlt. If you were serious about your schooling you would sell some of those shlitty old cars.
Your claims of needing to add a quart of oil each week are also shlt. Chevy builds the best engines, hands down. The 5.3 gets excellent fuel economy I've never seen one that leaked or burned oil.
I doubt that a 14 year old troll like you has a job, any cars or any hope of ever graduating high school.
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So
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8/30/2003
21:17:49
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Um, this is a Dodge site.
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Kowalski
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8/31/2003
08:00:19
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He's confused, a problem not uncommon among Chevy lovers.
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cham
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9/11/2003
15:35:01
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well i own a 2000 chevy silverado ex cab Z71 with the 5.3L v8 and i have had absolutly no problems with it in any aspect it gets excellent fuel milage ( for a fulll size truck ) and has plenty of grunt, i work and live on a farm and have had no problems pulling the heaviest of loads. i have it set up with a goose neck trailer hitch. there seems to be alot of unresearched,opionated posts on this site. the 2000 vortec 5.3 outpreforms the 98 vortec5.7 that we also own. and for the record i have also owned 2 fullsize fords both 5.4's and a full size dodge 5.9 and would never got back to either. basically if you want a truck for what it was built for (work) the chevy out performs the rest ( in my experiance ), if you want to squabble over a few tenths of a sec in a race i sappose that there are other views. personally i love my vortec 5.3.... btw who the heck compares midsize/compact trucks to full size ones any way ? i mean come on are midsize/compacts even real trucks? they dont seem to have slot of use to me.
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fastdak
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9/11/2003
16:00:50
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Blah blah blah, so far I have owned 4 dakotas and I have had no problems with any of them. My first 92 Dak was my highschool truck. 4x4/3.9/5spd. with a mild lift and 32s. And being in highschool, I tore the sh*t out of it. Went offroading about everyday, rockclimbing and mudding both, also used it for `work` on my dads ranch and my friends oil fields. Had a total of 90,000 miles when I traded it in. Only problems that I had was mud in the distributor and new brakes. This truck went through hell and back. Ive heard that Dodge trucks are known for there tough abuse taking drivetrain and I can honestly vouch for that.
98/dak/318/5spd
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02CC4.7
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9/11/2003
16:24:43
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I love chevy's, they are the best truck ever built. they are faster than any other truck sold. EVER. In the whole world. I love em. they out perform fords in towing, they out perform toyota's in anything you can think of, they out perform dodge in speed, and they are the best looking truck on the road. Chevy's rule. I increased the horsepower in my chevy by replacing the radiator hoses, putting new tires on it, and I also got performance door handles. After putting the door handles on, I raced my friend in a viper, and guess who won......ME. I can beat any of your dakotas any day.
P.S. - just in case some of you didn't catch on, this post is nothing but BS. ENJOY
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Black Sheep
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9/11/2003
20:28:54
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I use RAIN-X all over my Chevy and gained over 75HP. It is slicker then snot on a greased door knob.
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Super-Bee
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9/11/2003
20:58:06
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you knwo when i hear all these "race"stories i think of going out with my friend in his 13 sec talon, EVERYONE wants to race him
but if he doesnt want to race he will keep about mayeb a car length on them cuz he doesnt want to beat the car on civics
he races it card with the vettes, stangs, and all the other goodies
so race stories dont mean sh!t
"yeha he onlky beat me by a doorlength," yeah and they werent trying as hard as they could ya dumb@ss
RACE STORIES DONE MEAN ANYTHING
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GraphiteDak
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9/11/2003
21:17:43
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Look at that NEWChevy engine. HA HA HA that thing still uses SPARK PLUG WIRES!!!
Aside from the air hat I removed, my 4.7 doesn't have all that gay plastic hiding the engine either!
Honestly it's hard to compare todays new trucks because the new engines haven't been out long enough to fairly compare.
You look at the 70's and 80's engines it's perfectly clear. Chevy small blocks were more interchangable and cheap. After that the advantage stopped. Dodge engines lasted the longest without smoking, knocking, or scattering the bottom end all over the road like most Chevy small blocks did. The Ford windsor engines were not as cheap and interchangable as a chevy but you also got a few hundred thousand miles out of them before any signs of smoke or engine knock.
50k miles on the older Chevy 350 would allready be smoking by the valve guides. 100k miles started the usual rod knock and definitely had a flat cam.
We'll see what happens with the new breeds over the next few years.
Honestly, all companies are capable of making good and bad. And there's nothing wrong with a slightly smaller than full sized truck that comes with full sized truck POWER!!!
That's why I bought a Dakota! It's FAST, and it TOWS!
2003 Graphite QC 4X4 4.7 Auto 3.55
Home Brewed Cold AIr Intake, Flowmaster 40 series, Modified TPS to .72VDC, Modified IAT to compensate for home brew intake
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fastdak
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9/11/2003
21:18:49
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It dont matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winnings winning, ask any real racer....hehe
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GraphiteDak
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9/12/2003
00:00:39
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Speaking of that.
Every damn time I flip thru the movie channels, that fake ass movie is on! I just saw it listed a little while ago on starz/encore or something. What's up with that???
There must be a lot of suckers who believed that B.S.
2003 Graphite QC 4X4 4.7 Auto 3.55
Home Brewed Cold AIr Intake, Flowmaster 40 series, Modified TPS to .72VDC, Modified IAT to compensate for home brew intake
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Cham
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9/12/2003
11:34:18
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GraphiteDak- as far as spark plug wires go, chevy doesnt have to use anything special to "out-perform" if it works... why change it? as far as useing a dakota as a "work" truck thats one of the funniest things ive heard on here yet. must not be doing a whole lot of work with that weak v6 that the early 90's models had in them. and about the 70's and 80's sbc's it was proven that they were highly modifieable and the parts were easy to come by so who gave a d@mn if you had to rebuild it every 50K, heck thats a fresh motor to continue stomping dodges and fords with. that is if you were anytype of real mechanic.if you want to talk about racing lets move to the subject of cars. what can beat a z06 vette? nothing not even a viper. which btw has 2 more cyl. and is the only thing bigger than a v6 that dodge puts in a car. and as far as the fastest truck the ford lightning still is the fastest production truck in the united states. btw 90k isnt that many miles when you consider that nearly ever vortec 5.7 on the road already has over 100k on them ive seen them with as many 250k. while were talking about the past high school stories, i had a 1978 f150 4x4, had a 351M, 400crank,bored .030, lunati cam, heads were pocket ported and polished with stainless steel valves, racing grade retainers and springs, on top was a edelbrock performer rpm intake and a 750 edlebrock 4 bbl. and a auto C6 tranny with a light shift kit, dana 60 posi rear and dana 44 front. all with a 6 inch custom lift and 35's. and it was not treated well, so just because you had a dodge that took a lil abuse doesnt mean that it out performs a chevy.
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Chev
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10/07/2003
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I read a really interesting comment on the page before this where someone making a "fair" comparison compared the Hemi to the 6.0 vortec and a SRT to the silverado ss. The Hemi dodge puts in the 2500 pickups is a good engine. It has a lot of power and I, as a Chevy man give it props. After saying that, compare it to the 8.1 vortec chevy puts in the HD's. If you were to do an even comparison you would use comparable engines. Dodge's Hemi is an option for the 3/4 ton trucks, while the 8.1 vortec is an option for Chevy's 3/4 ton trucks. Chevy designed the SS for racing and racing only. If you wanted to compare the 6.0 and the Hemi evenly, it would have to be on the track; and the 6.0 would win hands down. Am more even comparison with the V-10 would be between a Viper and a Corvette. The Viper's powered by a 8.3 liter V-10 shows relatively similar numbers to the 5.7 liter V-8 in the Corvette. If you were to put a little money into the vette (there is a $30,000 difference betweeen the Viper and Vette) and send it to lingenfelter for twin turbo's the Vette puts out 650 horsepower and runs the quarter in 11.1 seconds. At a price tag of around $80,000, you can get a horsepower-to-weight ratio of 60.24:1 for the Viper or 114.04:1 for the Vette (keep in mind stock the Vette's ratio is 71:1) Buy what you want but when you make comparisons make them even!
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OK
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10/07/2003
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Let's compare a chevy to a turd.
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10/07/2003
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That's turd 1, Chevy 0.
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Dally
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10/07/2003
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For those of us who raced or race as a hobby still, you will all attest to the fact that if you want an inexpensive engine build up that will get you a reasonable number of ameture runs, Look to the "SBC" They are a dime a dozen, and any highschooler with a part time job can afford to build one up and race it. BUT if you can spend a few REAL dollars, The MOPAR is the MAGIC !!
I raced my Charger for the first 5 years that I owned it (68-R/T, bought it new) and never really needed to do much of anything to stay competetive. After 5 years of punnishment, I rebuilt it to "reasonably" close to stock, put it in the shop under a tarp. Now I take it out once in a while and show my Sons the difference between 425 true HP (real muscle) and what the manufacturers are pawning off as Muscle cars nowadays.
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Chev
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10/08/2003
18:35:56
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I figured that would be all you had to say.
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Dally
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10/08/2003
18:51:30
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Isn't that enough??? Need your Chevy pride battered like your K-fried??
That's right, I said MOPAR MAGIC,
You may win once with a chevy, but you can win all year long with the Mopar Muscle....LOL...
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Dally
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10/08/2003
18:53:52
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Isn't that enough??? Need your Chevy pride battered like your K-fried??
That's right, I said MOPAR MAGIC,
You may win once with a chevy, but you can win all year long with the Mopar Muscle....LOL...
If you wanna bash Mopar, go to where people are less intelligent, and will agree with you.
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