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Mark
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3/10/2001
15:10:08
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 Subject: Lightning vs. Dakota R/T
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I just saw Car and Driver on TNN. They showed the Ford Lightning with 380HP and 0-60 times of 5.1 seconds. Quarter mile in the 13's at 104MPH. They also mentioned that neither Dodge nor Chevy has a comparison in the high performance sport truck category. Do they not compare it to the Dakota because it isnt full size?
-Mark
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Bob
DakotaEnthusiast
3/10/2001
20:08:22
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Mark-they do not compare the Dakota, because it is considered a compact truck.Chevy had a SS 454 full size truck in the 80s [was a dog] and Dodge had a full size truck in the 70s Little Red Wagon [very quick for the day]. Mark love your web site.
Bob
00 Dak.CC SLT Plus 4.7L 235hp 355 L-Slip Auto.
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Anthony
GenIII
3/10/2001
21:08:57
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The Dakota is not a full size or compact size. It's a mid size truck which, falls in its own class. BUT yet it can play with the big boyz.
Anthony
2000 Dakota Sport Plus CC 4X4 4.7, 5spd, 3.55, Intense Blue, Loaded
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Bob
DakotaEnthusiast
3/10/2001
21:48:44
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Sorry Anthony- but the Dakota is considered a compact truck.My insurance company [State Farm]insures my truck as a compact truck and www.Edmunds.com calls it a compact truck.
Bob
00 Dak.CC SLT Plus 4.7L 235hp 355 L-Slip Auto.
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Anthony
GenIII
3/11/2001
08:30:47
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My mistake Bob, I thought for sure it was a mid size truck. I checked through some mags and it does fall under a compact, you're right. Some reviewers said it should be more full size or mid size. Just wondering what other truck has a V8 and is label a compact?? Which there probably isn't.
2000 Dakota Sport Plus CC 4X4 4.7, 5spd, 3.55, Intense Blue, Loaded
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Bob
DakotaEnthusiast
3/11/2001
17:14:12
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Anthony no other factory compact trucks out there with a V8.
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00 Dak.CC SLT Plus 4.7L 235hp 355 L-Slip Auto.
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Nick
DakotaEnthusiast
3/11/2001
23:34:29
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I beleive I read recently that when they did the redesign for the 1997 models, they classified it as a compct truck. This was because they feared if they called it a midsize it would scare people away who were looking for a Ranger or S-10 etc.
I may look for that report later.
1997 Dodge Dakota Sport 5.2-V-8
Duel Exhaust, Growler Mufflers
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
6/28/2001
22:46:24
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Hey, im looking to buying a dodge dakota r/t regular cab. But im trying to compare it. Can somebody tell me what the performance is on a stock r/t, in quarter mile times and 0-60mph times? Thanks i would appreciate it.
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
6/29/2001
09:54:42
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Just a guess or a butt dyno feel on the performance of my 2001 RC R/T.
Stock with 3,500miles
0-60 in 6.5-7.0 Seconds
1/4 in 14.8 to 15.2
I'm comparing my recently sold 2000 Turbo 14.7 psi Volvo, it ran stock 8.3-9.0 seconds 0-60 and 16.1 to 15.9 1/4. After the increased boost, exhaust, ect. It was tested 0-60 in 6.3 to 6.5 and the 1/4 in 14.5. I never got to stage 3 with 0-60 in 5.9 and 1/4 in the low 14's.
My Stock 2001 RC is every bit as fast as my old Modded Volvo.
I hope for low 14's with a better K&N cold intake, r/t 2.02 heads, headers, 8.5mm wires, t-stat, autolites, catback. Maybe more after I get that far.
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Smokin
Dakota Enthusiast
6/29/2001
10:57:00
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Yeah motortrend had the 2000 RC R/T running 6.5 0-60 and 15.0 in the 1/4. They had the 2001 RC R/T running 7.4 0-60 and 15.4 in the 1/4. I believe it was hotter and worse conditions when they tested the 2001. An RC should be able to run around 15.0. I've never seen one hit 14's stock, but I'm sure it's happened. About 15.2 is the times I'm seeing on most RC's. 0-60 should be close to 7.0 sec or slightly under. For a CC anything from 15.2 to 15.7 in common. I again have never heard of one of them going into the 14's stock and that would be really hard to do I believe. Their 0-60 is low to mid 7's. Their is generally a .3 tenths difference between a RC and CC in the 1/4 due to the CC weighing about 300 lb's more. Talking about Midsize and compact. I would definitly rate the Dakota as a Midsize. It has much more room on the inside than an S-10 or Ranger.
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/29/2001
11:53:35
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Never seen a stock R/T in the 14's? Where do you live? My Bone Stock '98 R/T CC, went a best of 14.61 @ 94 mph. Although the majority of the time it went 14.80s because it's always so friggin' hot here in Phoenix.
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
6/29/2001
13:22:03
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Thanks everybody for sending me info. But im not comparing it to the lightning i know that is a way faster truck. I just want to know the performance of a stock Dodge R/T, thats it i dont want no cc's or whatever they are performance stats. Thank you i would be gladly happy if somebody could answer my question.
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/29/2001
17:37:01
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Jason, you stated that you were looking to buy a Dakota R/T regular cab but were trying to compare it. Compare it to what? Then you post that you don't want any stats from a cc or whatever that is......... WTF??????
The CC I was referring to is a CLUB CAB version of the R/T as opposed to the REGULAR CAB or RC version. The common myth is that the RC version is supposed to be quicker than the CC version. I gave you the stock quarter mile time......it was 14.61 friggin' seconds!!!!!!!!!!! I have no clue what the 0-60 time is. You'll have to do your own research for that. I answered your question the best I could. It's not my fault you aren't informed enough to tell what a CC is! The next time you ask a question you might consider being more diplomatic about the replies you get or people will soon learn to ignore you completely!
There, I certainly hope you are gladly happy now!!!
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/29/2001
17:51:52
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Oh, and one more thing. I certainly hope you get an R/T. That way I can smoke you with my lowly 4.7 Sport! Have a nice friggin' day!
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
6/29/2001
22:42:37
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now i see what a cc and a rc is, sorry i dont go by abriviations. Every wheres i have looked has called it club cab or regular. And duner what is a lowly? and i was wondering dodge said they only make four colors of the r/t, and solar yellow wasnt one of them, thats the color i want, and i see everyone with yellow one, so somebody tell me whats up with that. thanks friggin duner
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/30/2001
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Yellow was discontinued as a colour a year or 2 ago. Very few were done in Sollar-yellow. I originaly wanted to get my 2001 Reg Cab 4.7 5 speed sport-plus limited slip 3.92 in Solar yellow but couldn't do it either and got black instead.
Furthermore the set up I just mentioned above on my Dak will thump a stock R/T but that's a whole other debate that comes and goes weekly.
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mbbankk
Dodge Dakota
6/30/2001
02:36:21
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jason-duner meant lowly as a form of lesser,
or not as good..
he was being sarcastic, by saying he wants
you to get a r/t so he can beat it with his 4.7
liter, cause the r/t comes in a 5.9, but isnt as
effeciant and is a lot heavier... Jason, also,
dun be so fast to get mad, duner is only trying
to help...
duner- do you have a z-tube or airaid on your
engine, seeing as you said its so hot, that
could help
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
6/30/2001
04:20:42
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you guys all tell me about you guys trucks how it will beat a r/t if i get it, i dont have too, im trading in a 99 pontiac ram air 6speed. if i had to id keep it but i dont. I shouldnt have bought the car cause my family does paving so really i need a truck, i know thats not the best truck for the job, but if im getting a truck i want to get a sporty one. i only plan to tow a seal outfit with it. and to let you guys know im only 17. and i have only owned a pontiac. im not 25 like you guys probably are. im a kid. so watch what you say. im not saying that as a threat or nothing just letting you guys know you arent talking to an adult.ok then thanks
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Scrap Head
Dodge Dakota
6/30/2001
10:34:11
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What kind of "kid" has a '99 Ram Air T/A? How in the hell did you pull that off? Just curious because alot of us "old guys" cant even afford a $32,000 car.
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mbbankk
Dodge Dakota
6/30/2001
16:29:44
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wealthy parents, thats all I can figure, but if
your gonna get a truck for a towing outfit, get a
4.7 clubcab, they look sporty, can tow more
than a 5.9, and get better gas mileage...
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Kraw
Dodge Dakota
6/30/2001
21:40:53
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I thought the 5.9 would outtow a 4.7, properly equiped of course. Now if you mean it tows more than a R/T, than that is diff =] Hell, my stang can "tow" as much as an R/T heheheh... well, not really, but I had to say it.
www.krawdaddy.net
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
7/01/2001
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mbbankk - I am still running with the stock intake set-up on my 4.7. Other than it has a drop-in K&N filter and a home-brew type of box built onto the front of the stock airbox. The box in front forces air from the grill opening into the stock airbox. It also only takes in the cooler air from the grill opening. Although, I do admit that it does need some improvement. I'm going to wait until I get the new throttle body before I either build or buy a new intake.
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Paul
Dodge Dakota
8/17/2001
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Hi all, Im new to this message board first off. Second, i enjoyed reading about your trucks..makes me proud to own a kota.
Ok couple questions for anyone who wants to answer. How much horsepower will a K&N add to my 318, (i own a 93 so 5.9 wasnt produced yet) will dual exaust without mufflers help my horses and, are octane boosters (that you add to your fuel tank) worth the $10-12? Thanks For the help.
93 cc dakota LE 4x4 5.2L 318, K&N, dual exaust...
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
8/17/2001
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sorry for the long response, i havent been on in a long time but i just saw scrap head saying how the hell does a kid get a ram air, when they cant afford it. You see i work with my brother-in-law and we do paving. And we do pretty goog, im only 17 now,and i have no payments, so is all i have is money to blow, and 450 a month isnt alot,when you dont have no payments on it. so theres your answer and by they way it was only 28,000 must be cheaper down here.
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
8/17/2001
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yeah i thought about that,i still havent sold my ram air yet, but the r/t's look nicer with the r/t package, and its a bit quicker,but i would have to say, i know some guys at a dealer ship who are my dads friends, and they can give me a 2000 lightning for 25,000, and its silver which is really nice, but im trying to decide cause theres not alot of r/t's down here and there are alot of ford lightnings so i dont know what to do. but ok then i check up on this later.
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Lee
Dodge Dakota
8/18/2001
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i have a 97 5.2 with a 5 speed... i can dust rt's... just thought i'd let ya know :)
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
8/18/2001
21:44:06
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I was trying to find 0-60 times for my truck, '01 SLT 4.7 5 speed w/ 3.92 LSD. Finally got the old lady and a stop watch; three runs (7.0-7.2). Personally I think it was faster. I did see some one mention a electronic acclerometer that was pretty cool(I think you can buy one for under $200) and from what I hear pretty accurate.
Hey Jason-just a word of advice your 17, 18 is gonna come up in a blink of an eye. Save your money go to school-LEARN SOMETHING!
Your pal
Dr.Q
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Nick McCardle
Dodge Dakota
8/20/2001
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Why say that neither Dodge nor Chevy has any truck that can compare to the L2? Because they don't, simple as that.
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Andy L
Dodge Dakota
8/20/2001
14:05:29
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The lighting has been supercharged thats why it has the speed it does but doing a few things to the R/T can blow away the lighting
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
8/20/2001
22:30:45
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oh yeah, like what can you do to make your r/t faster than a lightning like what can you modify? please tell me i would like to know.
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
8/20/2001
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I'am going to school, I take night classes. But theres not a point, cause this is what my family does for a living, and I plan to do it too. Plus, its a good living, I like to work hard for my money, instead of having it handed to me, if I affended you or anyone else sorry. And I do save my money, as for the eighteen part, its no different than 17.
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
8/20/2001
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I dont have a R/T, so dont send me a message about your 5.2L beating a R/T. Ok
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derrick
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Well as far as the camparision of a lightning and a RT go lightnings are supercharged put a supercharger in a RT and u will kill a lightning
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derrick
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Jason i am new to this board and saw ur question theres alot u can do to an RT or any dakota V8 to kill a lightning i have a 99 dakota sport 5.2 5spd dropped with centerline rims i just have headers borla exhaust K&N intake kit and a chip and i can beat lightnings and my truck isnt even supercharged like the lightning if it was there would be no comparision at all. The only thing that makes the lightning fast is the supercharger not their engine the dodges V-8s are way more faster than the lightnings.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Lets say you put a supercharger that gives you 50% HP. On a 250Hp rt you would be makeing 375 HP still 5 short of the lightning. But i think that would give the R/T better torque and Power to weight so you should be able to kick ass.
IF ONLY THE R/T HAD A 5 or 6 Speed man would this truck rule. COME ON CHRYSLER!!!
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Josh
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Jason,
5.2 with 5 speed & dropped and can't beat lightnings? BFS. Come one. There is NO WAY your 5.2 (non-blown) 5 speed can run mid 13s and handle a lightning. God you are funny.
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Josh
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Jason,
5.2 with 5 speed & dropped and can't beat lightnings? BFS. Come one. There is NO WAY your 5.2 (non-blown) 5 speed can run mid 13s and handle a lightning. God you are funny.
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Jason
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Yeah, I think it will take more than a 5 speed, headers and exhaust. But i dont know. But there is a kid who lives down the street who has a 5speed 5.2L dakota with a k&n filter and barracuda exhaust and he claims he can mop the floor with the new z28 camaros. which i think is BFS. But he said i could test drive it cause its for sale, its a 98 with 93,000 miles on it which is out rageous, so i didnt do it. I should have though cause theres no way 5.2L can beat a new camaro, cause they are almost identical to the pontiac, except mines a r/a, and ill shut him out in reverse,lol.
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Josh
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
17:34:43
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Jason,
Some people talk so much schit. You shoulda slapped the dude who claimed his Dak beat Z28s. Maybe V6 camaros. My Dak is 4.7L auto, RC, 4x2. Its fast compared to most pickups and some older Stangs, but come on. Not your Firebird or anyone/s T/A or Lightning. That derrick dude needs a foot in the eye of reality. Seriously.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
20:09:29
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If a stock lightning runs 13.5 1/4 mile stock I'd say whatever you do to make your Dakota run faster then a 13.5 means 5-speed, or R/T, you can beat a Lightning. There are Dakotas out there running in the low 13's, some without superchargers, nitros, or stoker kits. The lightning has to haul around a bunch of extra weight so you don't have to make as much power as it does to beat it.
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derrick
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
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Josh come on the new lightnings only run low 13's i have the race on video my 5.2 is more than just dropped besides the mods i listed above i have a few others not a blower or NOS and i cant beat the brand new lightnings but dont have any problems with the 99's or 2000's stock come on i guess uve have never seen fast dakotas wake the hell up
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