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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/23/2001
22:03:15
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Well I Found Out Yesterday, Speeding up the I-215 Towards Las Vegas ,I`ve Got The Speed Limiter;4.7 V8QC Auto. Mfg Date 03-03-01,I Know It`s Been Covered Here Before,But Did We Ever Get It Settled?,Is A New Chip The Only Fix?, And Have Some Been Disscontinued?Can The OLD Chip Be Re Flashed?Any Body Know? Thanks in Advance , jj
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Rob
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
20:37:50
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Right now the only fix for the 2001 4.7 auto,
would be a chip ,try ASE chips they told me it removes the speed limiter, and 10%HP 10% torque i might be wrong?http://www.asechips.com/main.html(714) 632-9344 $ 449.00
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
21:01:25
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WOW What a crazy web site.Thanks Rob,I guess for 450 bucks I can live with it.Why do the mfg`s put these limiter`s on in the first place , Tire Speed Ratings ? My Nephews 2001 Silverado 4.8 V8 Is the same.Thanks jj
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Nick
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
01:25:13
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According to a car dealer I know, its that way so you "cannot run from the cops"
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
00:27:35
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Is This Limiter Mentioned Anyware ? I cant Find IT in $100.00 shop manual or owners manual.Dealer never mentioned it. I Think They should Remove It ,If You Desire it,Can You Say Class Action Lawsuit? jj
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mbbankk
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
00:47:59
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I dont see why you would even try a lawsuit.. I
know no place in the US where you can go 98
mph legally, and if there is such a place, the
majority of dak owners dont live there..heh
but about so you cant run from the cops..
FUNNY!
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rob
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
04:18:44
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Had the same thing with my 97 3.9. had the computer updated at the dealer under warranty and it removed the limiter.
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
16:13:53
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Yea ,guess it would be an uphill battle,as your right,no place to LEGALLY drive that fast.It still dosent seem fair.O well jj
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Padre
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
16:44:23
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What about Montana????
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R.Phillips
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
18:24:50
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What about a dragstrip or raceway?????
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tuff
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
21:03:16
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i have a 2001 dakota 4.7 and i've had mine up to 115 and no speed limiter yet. i have not done anything to the truck so i do not know why it would be any diff. from yours.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
21:46:42
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tuff some are 98MPH and others are 117MPH. I live in Canada and mine kicks in @ 117MPH or 187KMH.
As far as I know all the ones in Canada can run to 117MPH. Also I think I remeber manual and auto sometimes making a difference.
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Rob
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
21:59:40
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the autos are 98 ,the Manuals 115,
try passing 2 trucks and the limiter comes on ??????????
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swampdak
Gen III
7/27/2001
22:02:35
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my auto is 115 mph(can)
Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41
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Mr.Sleepy
Dodge Dakota
7/28/2001
12:07:10
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Speed Limiters come standard on all cars manufactured in the United States. Most standard cars are set for 110 to 120 mph, The 97 Dakota I have is set for 98mph. Most sports cars don't have them because they are used on private tracks. No matter what state you are in, you can take your car to any dealership and request they remove the Limiter. The Dealership has to deactivate it if you ask them, but they figure if they turn it on at the factory that most owners wont bother to shut it off. So it doesnt cost anything, except for maybe a few hours in the shop.
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surferpug
Dodge Dakota
7/28/2001
19:09:20
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will dealers black list you for requesting the remove the limiter?
have you done it, and if so which state?
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/28/2001
21:24:08
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Thanks Mr Sleepy,I`m going to the dealer monday.Will report back what they tell me. jj
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MikeW
Dodge Dakota
7/28/2001
21:55:12
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My understanding is the speed limiter is set by the factory based on the stock tire speed rating.
I assume that if the speed limiter kicks in at 98mph then your stock tires had speed rating of Q.
Tire ratings listed below.
Q Up to 99 mph (160 km/h)
S Up to 112 mph (180 km/h)
T Up to 118 mph (190 km/h)
U Up to 124 mph (200 km/h)
H Up to 130 mph (210 km/h)
V Over 130 mph (210 km/h)
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/28/2001
22:23:01
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Yes Mike Mine Are Rated "S" jj
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swampdak
Gen III
7/29/2001
10:46:29
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Mike you ahve finally figured out the great limiter mystery,it makes perfect sense my tires are s rated and my truck shuts off at around 112 mph.You would think dodge would just tell us and that would be the end.I think I will ask my dealer to remove limiter, not that I want to go faster than 112 mph but because its there, boy talk about a cheap mod.
Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41
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RaceHorse
Dodge Dakota
7/29/2001
18:46:22
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I have Good Year RT/S P265/70R16. How do I determine the speed rating?
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Ken
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MikeW
Dodge Dakota
7/29/2001
20:01:22
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Ken the speed rating is on the sidewall. The link below will show you what to look for.
http://www.goodyear.com/us/tire_school/tirespecs.html
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/30/2001
14:18:07
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Well went to Alhambra Dodge,Service mgr told me yes they can reflash the chip but afe unsure if it will remove speed gov.He told me he owns a 2001 dakota 4.7 and has purchased a JET chip for his.So much for that,will try glendora dodge as they sell mopar racing EQ. jj
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surferpug
Dodge Dakota
7/30/2001
20:16:35
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what speed rating is the Goodyear R/T tire at? Is there any off-road tire that can handle 130 mph? I figure this is the fastest a stock dak can go without mods. since I am interested in raising the rev limiter and speed limiter. I current have the speed limiter set from the factory at 117-119 mph
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MikeW
Dodge Dakota
7/30/2001
21:00:53
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The Michelin Cross-Terrain is the only off road capable tire I have seen that are speed rated up to 130 mph.
http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/auto/suv/replacement.html
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Rick
Dodge Dakota
7/30/2001
22:10:16
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Stupid question. Does it affect manual transmission?
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Dakota 2 Time
Dodge Dakota
7/30/2001
22:41:35
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Add Pirelli Scorpion Zeros to the list. Most are V rated and 2 of them are H rated (these 2 are XL types). I used 255/60-15 to replace the OEM 215/75-15 on my 97. A ittle noisy but wow, what traction.
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B-Ron
Dodge Dakota
8/03/2001
00:20:40
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I have a 93 sport 3.9L. Was there a limiter set on a truck that old? If so, will they still eliminate it? Thanx, B-Ron
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jj
Dodge Dakota
8/03/2001
00:49:16
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wow b-ron I dont know.Have you tryed to go faster then 98 mph ? I think that this tire issue has come to light the last 2 or 3 years,I would think a 93 would be safe.To tell the truth It would have taken a long time for me to find out about this speed limiter,had it not been for this forum.I dont drive that fast very often.I had a 1977 BIG ranger 4x4 w/ V8 351 that couldent get up to 90 mph going downhill (my first new truck) even the speedo only went up to 90mph.No real speed limiter other then the over smoged V8.Had my 91 ranger up to 120mph no problem.All I can suggest is maybe try it and see.Drive safe. jj
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jj
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
13:34:33
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Well I went to pasadena dodge today,no luck.The service writer says his suburban limits at 90 mph. Another guy there said if I could find out what to do, he could reflash the chip,as I told him about one of our posts here saying that if you want the limiter removed they HAVE to remove it,He claimed he dident know how to remove it ,the svs writer sayed that it would prob. void my warranty.What to do?Keep searching,Got to be an answer!
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jj
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
13:50:11
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Dear customer,
Its probably 2 - 3 months out. We are still testing different designs
right now. We want it to make power increases comparable to the 5.2 / 5.9
kits. The 4.7L is fighting us in reaching its full potential.
Thanks for asking, Rick
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jay
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
16:47:28
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i have a 2001 dakota sport 3.9 v6 w/ the 16" wheel pakage. I had my truck over a 100 no limiter yet but i'm not trying to see when it will kick in either. Save the racing for the track and the *ss for the sack, anyways the limiter is set by the mfg. so that you do not exceed the max speed rating of the tire. picture this ok..... rollin down the highway at over the max speed rating of the tire when suddenly the belts separate inside and your tossed into a tree or what have you..... not a pretty sight, so i hope that's food for thought, i suggest that if you want to undo your speed limiter that you get yourself a set of tires that will handle the speed or speeds at which you are intending to do if you choose not to get a set of tires that handle higher speeds then your gambling with your own life and PLEASE stay the hell away from me when you decide to exceed the max rating of your tires cause i do not want you crashin into me thanx.
2001 dakota sport 3.9 v6, 3.55, 5sp, reg. cab short bed
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jj
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
18:47:04
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Well Jay you`ve gone 2 mph faster in your dakota then I have gone in mine.I Have the 16" goodyear`s "S" rated good for 112 mph.I`m stuck at 98.I dont really intend to zoom around at speeds in excess of 100 mph,it would just be nice to be able to ,if I wanted.It`s kind`a embarassing showing off my new dakota to my friend ,and him telling me his saturn will do 115mph, on the air force base of course.When ever I tell anyone of this limiter, they give me that look of disdain,even you are bragging you can go faster then me.I guess it all boils down to bragging rights, not the fact that I will actually drive that fast(like I could even find a place in LA) But just that I COULD. jj
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jeffrev
Dodge Dakota
8/15/2001
00:42:54
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hey jj dont feel too bad , I just shifted my focus
to reaching the limiter as fast as i can. this
weekend i hit it at the end of a nice straight
onramp to 505.
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Bob
Gen III
8/24/2001
14:25:10
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I would like to know if there is a speed limiter on the R/T Dakota or the Gen3 5.2?There has been a lot of talk on the 4.7 having one{my Dakota shuts down at 98}and I have the good road tires SLT+ .
Thanks
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Demon-Xanth
Dodge Dakota
8/24/2001
14:42:56
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The speed limiters are strictly for tire ratings. There is also Y and W ratings that are a subset of the Z "somewhere over 149MPH" rating.
108 and 120MPH are popular limiters w/ manufacturers.
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Bob
Gen III
8/24/2001
18:03:47
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Demon I have GoodYear Eagle LS P255/65R15,s.Do you know what they are rated at?
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98SPRTV6
Dodge Dakota
8/24/2001
18:26:13
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My 98 Dakota 3.9L with a five speed doesn't have a limiter on it, I have had my truck to 120 numerous times. It takes a while to get there but I have done it!!
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Nick
Dodge Dakota
8/24/2001
19:18:44
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SURE sounds like a fish story to me!
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Demon-Xanth
Dodge Dakota
8/26/2001
01:56:47
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Looks like the SR speed rating (112MPH).
Does anyone know if the upgrade chips are EPROM chips or actual MCUs?
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racenut
Dodge Dakota
8/26/2001
02:40:01
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this works in rangers(I have a ranger) Find your speed sensor. Cut and put a switch In line, put the switch in your cab. When it is off, all is normal. Switch on, speed limiter is off but your check engin light will be on. This worked in rangers. Yes I know you peps are runing dakotas, just wonted to let you know about dis. I am not here to get flamed, I am here to learn about the 2001 4.7 dakota's. I am thinking about geting one!!!!!
THANKS
racenut
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