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Roberto Dak99
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2/12/2008
22:33:48
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Hey Guys!... I have a 99dakota 3.9L auto. and I've been thinking on getting an air intake system but I don't really know wich one it's the best that can give more hp/tq to my truck. I have a k&n filter on my factory air box. Does it really makes a big differense having the snorkel and the filter cone? Now. having this intake syst. on my truck while driving on a light or heavy rain. Does the water can get in to the engine?... Any ideas, advise or suggestions I will really apreciate it. You guys are the experts out there....Thanks
Dakota99
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.boB
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2008
10:30:19
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They're all about the same. Unless you're running your truck on the edge, you'de never notice the differance between one and the other. Pick the one with the biggest element.
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robby
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2008
13:15:56
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Spending the same amount of money on a good
tune up with quality parts: plugs, wires, cap, rotor, oil, filters, cleaning the throtle body & etc.
will make more of a difference than any of the mentionned custom air intakes gizmos.
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Roberto Dak99
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2008
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.bob & robby> Thank you guys 4 your advices I really apreciate it. I'll take a look and I'm gonna deside wich one to get and do a full tune up to my truck. I have one more question. Having this intake sys. Does the water can get to the ingine on a light or heavy rain? I'got this doubt and I really don't know. any answer it will be really helpfull.
Thank you guys!....
Dakora99
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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2/15/2008
20:12:46
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Roberto,
Don't waste your money!
They're all Overpriced, alot of hype, and Little or no gains on a Real dyno test.
I've never seen anyone with a before and after dyno on a Dak, claim what K&N claims.
Overpriced, way overpriced for a little of nothing.
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.boB
Dodge Dakota
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2/16/2008
00:07:16
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<< Does the water can get to the ingine on a light or heavy rain? <<
Mine's an allweather truck, and it doesn't seem to be an issue., I even removed the rubber flap for better air flow.
A while back (1990?) one of the magazines did a test on the 5.9 magnum engine. They used a variety of Dodge performance parts, and tested each one on the dyno.
Surprisingly, the only one that actually increased measurable power was the CAI. Shorty headers actually cost power. The perormance computer didn't change anything.
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Kowalski
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2/16/2008
07:15:21
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Todd, have you ever seen anyone do a before and after dyno on a K&N fipk on a Dak ? I haven't, and I suspect that's the only reason you haven't seen those claims substantiated. K&N took much more time to release this for the 4.7, for example, than other intake manufacturers - so they seem more reputable than the others with their claims. They said they wouldn't release it until they could document a gain. I agree it seems overpriced for the small power gains at only the highest revs; which is the reason it isn't one of the mods on my truck - just not enough bang for the bucks.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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99dodgert
Dodge Dakota
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3/02/2008
05:46:09
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Don't waste your money you have a kn filter thats just as good as having the straight tube and filter.
Port your heads thats where the powers at!!!
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TexasTodd
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3/04/2008
13:16:54
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Kowalski,
No, actually I haven't seen an independent before and after on the K&N FIPK.
With my homebrew intake on mine, I actually took out my K&N drop in on my last dyno run, and it peaked at 301 RWTQ. A 1 ft/lb gain, but since no one including me would drive w/o their air cleaner, I usually don't mention that.
I didn't compare stock vs. homebrew, but I suspect there wouldn't be much difference, I should do it one day though.
Maybe they can get what they claim, then maybe my 'homebrew' does too.
HOmebrew vs K&N, same motor, same day, that would be interesting.
I only did the different MY 'stock' vs. Super Chips settings with different octanes, using virtually the same ambient conditions.
01 SLT QC, two tone paint,
OEM fender flares
Cab high Leer cap w/ double slider window,
Infinity sound, O/H computer
Tire and handling pack,
Trailer towing pack,
4.7 manual, 3.92 LSD, traction bars
HO cams,
HO intake,
Ported the stock 68mm TB,
Homebrew 'true' CAI, w/ K&N
No belt driven clutch or cooling fan
No third cat.
SuperChips Tuner
Max dyno, NO short belts, etc.
227 RW HP
300 RW TQ
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Kowalski
GenIII
3/04/2008
17:23:39
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That would be interesting. I think you'd be surprised - they put a lot more development and testing time into theirs. I'm surprised you think the one you just threw together with no testing would equal it.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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3/05/2008
18:29:48
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It wouild be interesting.
It all in the physics, aerodynamics, etc.
I have a hard time believing that they put a bend just right, or have an exact length or tube before the filter that would equal, what is it they claim on a stock 4.7? 7 hp?
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Kowalski
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3/05/2008
18:50:40
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Well, that's how the physics works - getting the lengths and bends just right.
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99dodgert
Dodge Dakota
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3/06/2008
06:24:21
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TEXAS TODD,
What the flip flap are you talking about?
If I'm reading your jibber jabber right, and I like to think I am.
You should be making a little more HP than you are.
????????? You ported your THROTTLE BODY???
What kind of intake do you have????
And how many cats do you have?????
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