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TexasTodd
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1/10/2008
17:42:31
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Performance can also be how long something, or a system lasts.
I have a 2001, QC, 4.7yadda, yadda,
I ordered it with the manual tranny, tire and handling pack, trailer towing pack, limited slip, etc. Until recently, I towed my 20ft catamaran sailboat weekly.
It has the stock 11inch rear drums, and the stock front discs.
It has all the original everything, orig. pads, rotors (never turned on lathe), fluids, shoes, drums, everything original.
It now has over 132,000 miles, and still stops great! Sports car stops-no. Adequate/safe stops, even with my family in my Quad Cab- YES.
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Geez
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2008
23:22:19
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Oh. A quad cab. Your one of THOSE!
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CluCool
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2008
10:33:01
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Well if I were you I would change all the brake pads and the front rotors, it cant hurt and you and I both know they won't last forever. At least do the front pads at minimum, but since your in there slide off the old rotor and on a new one. 132,000 is a lot of stops, and if you ride around with your family all the time just to be safe CHANGE THEM.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/15/2008
10:08:07
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CluCool,
You don't know me,
I do nearly all my own work on my Dak.
Why should I change anything, when the pads, rotors, etc. are still in their serviceable life? In other words, don't need it?
If it were a problem, they would have already been changed.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/20/2008
17:25:50
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I bleed the brakes yesterday.
In doing so, I pretty much replaced the brake fluid. I did it myself, by opening the valve, putting a rubber hose on it, and putting the other end in a plastic bottle, so as the fluid came out, the end of the hose would be in fluid, and no air would leak back. ONe wheel at a time form farthest to closest to the master cylinder.
After over 6 years, with nothing ever done to me brakes, it still works about the same.
By using my parking brake every time I park, that keeps the 11inch drums adjusted, taking work off the front rotors. And the manual tranny helps too, downshifting to about 1500 rpms while stopping.
NOw I've got over 133,000 miles, and it still stops well.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/21/2008
13:37:53
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That last post should have read:
I bled the brakes. Bleed, Bled, it's all about tense.
Sorry for the typo, bled the brakes.
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olsarge
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1/22/2008
12:31:09
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Don't just bleed them. With that many miles flush out all the fluid with new.
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Tnjones
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1/25/2008
21:12:52
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Todd, I hope you didn't pay for that tow package because it comes with 4 wheel disk brakes. At least my special ordered with the tow package 03 cc did. That's the only reason I ordered the tow package was for the 4 wheel disks!
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2008
22:54:39
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oslarge,
I bought one of thelarger bottles of fluid. I DID replace all the fluid. I used a hose on the zerk fitting, and small container so air wouldn't get back in. I opened the farthest wheel first, and one at a time, did eachg wheel and worked back to the closest wheel. Worked great.
Tnjones,
Without trying to flame you, etc, the Dakota was NOT offered with rear discs in 2001, on any package, at all, period.
I ORDERED my truck, I should know.
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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1/28/2008
10:16:08
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tn, i believe ALL '03 daks came with 4 wheel discs std. if memory serves me, they were std on '03 & '04. '05 they went back to disc/drum.
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Kowalski
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1/28/2008
17:44:42
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Yup, not related to any tow package.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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DSW
Dodge Dakota
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1/29/2008
00:59:56
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And,,, if I'm not mistaken (probably am and will get flamed ;-) The 03 and 04's came with bigger front rotors and dual piston front calipers, which the earlier years didn't. Don't know about the 05 and later models.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/29/2008
14:42:02
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? 05 went back to drum rears as standard?
Tell me it ain't so!
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daddio
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1/29/2008
15:18:33
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"? 05 went back to drum rears as standard?
Tell me it ain't so!"
Todd, why would say that if you don't have any complaints about your current disc/drum setup?
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TexasTodd
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1/29/2008
16:51:11
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daddio....
While I don't have any complaints about my original ('cept new fluid) brakes (all 4 wheels), after over 134,000miles,
I would think going to 4 wheel discs
is an 'upgrade'.
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Kowalski
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1/29/2008
17:24:39
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Just going to aftermarket discs and pads was an upgrade for my '00. The factory parts on mine were certainly nothing to brag about.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Tnjones
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1/31/2008
01:55:27
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Sorry, I went back and checked my original order for the truck, either/or SLT package or Club Cab got me 4 wheel disks. According to my notes I ended up NOT getting the tow package because it was just a receiver and light connection.
Trailer Tow Group
4WD regular cab, Club Cab, Quad Cab $275
Class IV trailer-hitch receiver, 7-wire trailer harness, 4-wire adapter. Requires Heavy-Duty Service Group.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/31/2008
11:50:12
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Tn,...
Uuhhh, Look up the 'Hevy Duty Service Group',
REQUIRED with the towing package.
Do you drive a manual tranny,like I do?, then the Transmission cooler is not needed, o/w, it's in the towing group.
What about the larger radiator? The larger Battery? The larger alternator?,etc., In 01, the 11inch rear drums.
huh?
I ordered the towing package on my 01 QC SLT,
'cause I tow things, AND, it comes with more than a receiver and wiring harness.
Incidentally, in 01, the Tire and Handling pack came with 8x16 inch alloy wheels, AND a rear sway bar.
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Kowalski
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1/31/2008
18:56:36
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While there are some differences, I know how TnJones feels. It's like they are double charging us for some stuff; as the larger battery and alternator are also in the AC package. But no break in price ordering both groups. And although I should have received the larger drums with my tow package, that's not the way they assembled the truck.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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2/01/2008
09:13:54
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11" drums were standard on the '00 & '01 QC's. were they actually part of a tow package for CC's & RC's?
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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2/15/2008
20:19:20
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Well, after over 135,000 miles, I had to take out and grease the calper slide bolts on the drivers side.
Glad I did it before the wheel locked up altogether.
Still original brakes though! The pads still have alot of pad left!
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