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Mobil 1
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5/24/2006
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The risk/reward factor is far to great for a team to substitute another product after they have signed on with a sponser. They would be working the rest of their lives to pay off the lawsuit and their racing days would likely be over because they could never get another sponser.
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Huggins
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5/24/2006
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A lawsuit would more than likely fall back onto the team owner yes, but sponsors on the other hand depending on the team, may be an easy come easy go type of thing and depending on how well known the team was the head honchos for nascar may or may not get involved and ban the team from any future racing in the nascar circuit all together, which is why I stated it happened mainly in the 90's when things weren't checked as closely as they are today... I guess I never should have even pointed any of this out...
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toolfan
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5/25/2006
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huggins your hole is getting deeper just drop the shovel. not a fan at all of Nascar, and Huggins could be right or wrong i don't really care. Nascar is just a waste of fuel if you ask me. Now Rally Racing, Baja 500 & 1000, are worth watch and worth the resource.
here is the test. you guys out there have a brand of oil you always trust and have put many miles on your car's engine with?
I think Shatto has a reason to be proud of Amsoil, if his truck really has the miles he says.
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02DAK
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5/25/2006
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10,000, 15,000 or 25,000 Amsoil or Mobil 1. No big mystery, just change your f##king oil. I don't care how good Amsoil is, why would anybody leave the same oil in for 25,000. Oh that's right, some guy named shatto says it good.
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Obio3
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5/25/2006
20:28:33
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One more thought. Who says the car advertizing say MOBIL 1 is using the same oil we buy. Nothing says mobile can't slip them a produxt we never see. One of those faster car race secrets maybe???????
So many problems .... So little time
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Huggins
Dodge Dakota
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5/25/2006
22:26:05
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Well I don't get how I'm digging myself a deeper hole... I thought I had cleared all of my statements up... Perhaps not and incase it helps any, the one time that I saw a team switch out oils was a team getting the penzoil sponsorship... I thought I had maybe hinted at this before... They poured out the oil and replaced it with the Mobil 1 oil... Also as stated this was done in the 90's...
Obio, you are closer to being correct on your statement than you may or may not realize... Actually this newest formula of Mobil's "15,000 mile oil drain interval" has more of the same additives in it that was used previously in NASCAR... That's actually how the newer beefeir additive package came to be, allthough it was originally supposed to be aired in a 0-30 weight package instead of the 5-30 and it was supposed to have been out a year earlier than what it was ... However Mobil's newer oil "15,000 mile oil drain interval again", also has more cleanliness additives along with longevity or rather extended drain additives than what was used in nascar at that time...
You all can take this how ever you want to take it... I agree that it has gone on for a little longer than it ever should have, but I am speeking from my own personal experiance and saying it to as close to the truth as I know how...
I also never said that Mobil was a horrible oil or bad oil to use... Heck, I still personally use the Mobil 1 "5-30" 15,000 mile formula in my mustang and lawn equipment both... The reason I use amsoil in my truck is I'v got $5-$6,000 in the engine alone and only saw fit to use what I saw best in it... It's just been my experiance that the amsoil will hold up and provide the benefits of using a synthetic longer than the mobil would, not to mention the fact that I'v also personally seen engines with the dual bypass system go way past the 500,000 to 700,000 mile markers with still no problems such as oil burn, power loss or fuel mileage loss... I now change the mobil every 10,000 miles in the mustang because it will only hold up that long in a safe manner of speaking... I change it in my $3000 riding mower every 50hrs... Ussually and I do mean ussually it still looks just as good as when I poured it in at this time, but I just don't wont to have to buy another engine... "Just did a compression check after 250 hrs and both cylinders still have 170 psi of compression each"... Plus the fuel economy I save using it allows me to use these oil change intervals... I go for the longer drain intervals in my vehicles, because for 1 I know how well the oil will hold up mileage wise and 2 I do a lot of highway driving and get tired of changing the oil every other week...
So say what you want to about me... Take what I say how you like, but atleast as previously stated, I try to tell it like it is which some of the bashers on here could care less about as long as their promoting "their" product...
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5/26/2006
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I do NOT make derogatory comments regarding a competitors oil.
As a "Site Sponsor", I provide information and let people make their own decisions.
All I ask is that owners of vehicles CONSIDER Amsoil for all their automotive needs.
For more information click the following link and Request a FREE Amsoil Catalog.
Have a Happy Memorial Day Weekend and Remember the Troops (Fallen, Veteran, and Current).
I am leaving for the weekend so "Play Nice!" ... and NO Flaming please.
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franksmith
Dodge Dakota
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5/26/2006
16:12:43
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steve
why don't u tell them about your amsoil forum
for dakota's with no flaming: Click Here
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toolfan
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5/27/2006
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Huggins i dont think you are lying.
this oil by pass sounds like a great idea, and i wouldn't mind purchasing one.
shatto where did you get your oil by pass unit? was it from Amsoil? what was the price, how hard to install? thanks!!
AmsoilSponsor thanks for informing..
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Huggins
Dodge Dakota
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5/28/2006
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Amsoil Sponsor, Steven, I hope you didn't think that I meant those comments towards you, because I most deffenately never meant for them to be implied towards yourself... Infact I meant it towards the person who called me the "Amsoil Whore"... You'll notice on here that I have never called anybody a name of such or even resorted to any name calling at all... Personally I think or rather believe that name calling is a last resort when you have nothing more intelligent to say in your defense...
Again, Sorry if you took that statement personally...
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Shatto
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5/30/2006
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Huggins,
We who use and say positive things about AMSOIL have in common that we don't lower ourselves to debasing another product, unless it is the totally discredited Prolong. We pass along our experiences and published lab reports. Facts.
Facts, so that others may make intellegent decisions on upgrading to a technically superior product.
Whomever uses the term;"Amsoil Whore" is the same person who is "Pro Choice" as long as it is his choice, is for "Freedom of Speech," just not yours and is afraid of anything he does not understand or is told to him by his group of fearful, small, ignorant friends to distrust.
There seems to be, on this site, someone who's mommy would put a stop to these antics, if she only knew what her baby was doing.
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Get real
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2006
05:54:37
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Huggins, question? when did someone call you the "amsoil whore"? I reread all my post and never found that "you" were referred to as the amsoil whore, but in your last reply, you seem to have revealed your true identity. Only Shatto has earned the name amsoil whore...Are we trying new names to strengthen the amsoil myth. So nice try Shatto, your alter ego has been revealed "huggins", nice try. And next time please alter your typing style when you come back with another name. ok "HugginShatto" .
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Shatto
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5/30/2006
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Get Real,
You are so cute!
Toolfan,
Amsoil has the By-Pass filter systems. Go to Steve's site.
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5/30/2006
17:35:47
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Thanks Shatto, and I have something better.
DISCLAIMER -- In general, I DO NOT promote other truck sites or forums on this website, however I have created a thread in My Amsoil Forum on another Dakota site as follows:
AMSOIL By-Pass Oil Filter Systems ("Single" vs. "Dual") - Amsoil Forum
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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Huggins
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2006
20:57:17
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Sorry, I just saw the name after my own personal post, didn't realize it was something given to shatto previously "I'v only been on here for the last 3 weeks I guess, since I left 2 years ago for other things"... AND I guarantee that shatto and I are not the same person... I type the way I do to provide ease of reading in what I ussually make out to be extremely long drawn out postings... I try to give all the info I can so as others don't come back and ask more questions... I don't know about anyone else, but I personally hate it when you ask for some info and all you get in return are little tid bits...
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Cranky
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6/02/2006
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Once upon a time I was a Die Hard "Mobil 1" fanatic. 15K between oil changes and not even blinking an eye. When my 4.7 Dak was new, I ran 0W30 without a worry, Around 40K I started with 5W30. Shortly thereafter Exxon-Mobil corporation really pissed me off with thier Greed. I will no longer purchase anything that has a connection with Exxon-Mobil Corporation. Something about screwing the entire American Economy on thier way to making a record 139 BILLION dollar profit last year!
I became a diehard Mobil 1 fan back in 98 when I bought my Jeep Cherokee 4.0, I knew that Mobil 1 was not the greatest oil on earth but it was mighty dern good, and I could purchase it at Wal-Mart at 2am if I chose to do so.
Now, I plan a little further ahead and order my Amsoil and just be patient for 2 days until it's delivered. Amsoil may not be the greatest product on earth either. But I have no reason to doubt thier products.
Can anybody prove otherwise?
Just my 2c-
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Get real
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6/02/2006
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PROVE WHAT CRANKY???? Yes Exxon made millions in profit. Walmart made millions, pet dairy, amsoil,hillary clinton, our pres. and vice pres. and so did thousands of other companies. Thats what they call, running a business. PROFIT, ENUFF SAID. Thats what they do. So how is exxons greed any worse than the thousands of other companies that take advantage of american consumers? Botteled water companies, now thats a good one also. Its not Exxons greed, its the americans greed. compare products from 20 years ago and you'll realize that our gas situation has been a long time coming.
1985 new trucks were around 10-11 thousand, now 20 thousand and up. doubled. 1985-milk 1.59, now 3-4 bucks a gallon and etc. whats not being told by the media is that what percent of exxons profit was from overseas sales to china, japan and other nations.Over half of the 139 billion was from just that. not including our military consumptions of petroleum. and sure amsoil is with out a doubt a good product, but they also are not giving away their product, their in it for profit. So get off the "exxon bandwagon excessive profit" kick. Its getting old. Im sur if you were one of exxons elite, you'd have no problem with it. Right?
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shatto
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6/03/2006
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Cranky,
Your "Obscene Profits" figures are off.
Question for everyone who thinks Evil Big Oil (and WalMart too) makes too much money; why is there not a peep out of you about how much of what you pay for gasoiline goes to the government?
Exxon-Mobil made $38 Billion dollars.
Exxon-Mobil paid $100 Billion dollars TAXES!
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Get real
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6/05/2006
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uh oh, Global warming must be for real, I think me and Shatto agree on something. My mind must be melting..
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frank
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6/08/2006
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Visit Steve's Dakota Amsoil Forum without all the BS or Flaming
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