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Big Dave
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4/30/2006
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Does anyone konw what the stock output of the 02-05 6.0 Cummins diesel? Is there any real difference in the new '06 engine?
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shatto
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5/03/2006
00:38:47
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You have to listen to hear it run.
Superior fuel management.
More power.
Less smoke.
Etc.
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Super bee
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5/05/2006
10:37:38
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in the Rams its a 5.9L anyway
in 2007 it will be a 6.7
in 2004.5 they bumped it up to 600 ft/lbs and then in 05 605, in 2006 610
however when they did this the mileage kinda tanked out and is in the 14-16 range, the pree 600 levels were like 18-20
i think early 2004 was 570 ft/lbs and 2003 was 555 ft/lbs
as for HP
2003 - 305
2004 - 305
2004.5 - 310
2005 -320
2006 - 325
im not real sure on those numbers though, thats jsut pulling from memory
thats just the HO numbers
before 2004 there was the normal output and high outut
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shatto
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5/05/2006
11:00:05
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The Dodge guy told me, a few days back, they were going to de-tune the new Diesels to get better mileage. Horsepower race is over.
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Super bee
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5/06/2006
02:20:21
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a dodge guy also told me the tenative numbers on the new 6.7 are going to be 615 tq and will be upped as needed
1990 sport RC SB, 1995 318drivetrain, 3.92 gears (came with truck) 95 dash/steering wheel, hearthrob exhaust, headers, cutout after y-pipe, necessary electric fan add-a-leafs, 30x9.5 mud tires, cranked T-bars, AR 39 15x8 rims, grill guard, roll bars
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Super bee
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5/06/2006
12:47:30
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offroad mag has the new 6.7 cummins slated to be 305 hp and 610 tq
1990 sport RC SB, 1995 318drivetrain, 3.92 gears (came with truck) 95 dash/steering wheel, hearthrob exhaust, headers, cutout after y-pipe, necessary electric fan add-a-leafs, 30x9.5 mud tires, cranked T-bars, AR 39 15x8 rims, grill guard, roll bars
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shatto
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5/06/2006
14:02:14
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you cannot turbo charge a diesel.. for one they use compression instead of combustion and turbos run off the exhaust from combustion and if there is no combustion there cannot be exhaust.. if I were you I'd just put some nos on it
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Trevor
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5/06/2006
18:45:29
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That's pretty funny, can't turbo a diesel eh????
They use compression for an explosion rather than a spark plug. There is still combustion.
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shatto
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5/07/2006
14:41:14
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you are an idiot
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shatto
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5/07/2006
15:33:54
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Sorry, guys.
The resident child struck again.
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Super bee
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5/08/2006
09:03:19
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fake shatto
nos increases the power of the combustion, if diesels dont have combustion then how would NOS help at all?
great reasoning....
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jd
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5/08/2006
11:16:01
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dont fuk with what you dont understand shatto
HD mechanic
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shatto
Dodge Dakota
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5/09/2006
11:52:14
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jd (HD Mechanic),
My first was a Diesel Land Rover in the 60's.
It was the one I learned not to put my foot over the exhaust to kill the engine, like you can with a gas engine.
I wonder why someone gets such joy using my name to play childish games.
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jd
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5/09/2006
15:32:48
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previously i was refering to the resident child shatto......
you still can kill a diesel engine by plugging the exhaust..... the only difference is a diesel can run around 400 to 500 psi compression, whereas a gasoline angine runs approx 150 to 200 psi......
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Super bee
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5/09/2006
16:52:51
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i like the guy that siad you cant turbo a diesel
its not like 95% of them are turbos
1990 sport RC SB, 1995 318drivetrain, 3.92 gears (came with truck) 95 dash/steering wheel, hearthrob exhaust, headers, cutout after y-pipe, necessary electric fan add-a-leafs, 30x9.5 mud tires, cranked T-bars, AR 39 15x8 rims, grill guard, roll bars
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shatto
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5/10/2006
00:44:25
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jd,
Sure, but have you ever done it? Did you do like me and have your foot blown off the pipe?
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trucky
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5/10/2006
02:10:37
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seriously, when i think diesel, i think turbo diesel... oh but you cant turbo a diesel, so their recalling every one
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jd
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5/10/2006
11:25:40
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i havent tried it, no need but theoretically...
nothin works wit a plugged dump hole
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PB
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5/10/2006
13:56:06
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well I know they changed when the diesel knock went away. That's what makes a diesel sound like it does. to take that away the introduce the same amount of fuel at 2 different times therefore eliminating diesel knock, it makes it quieter. and run more eficiently, giving you a more complete burn of the fuel.
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jd
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5/10/2006
19:37:59
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that is called pre injection, and not always the same amount at two different times, usually a leaner mix first then the primary injection secondly, so instead of an explosion in the cylinder there is a more controlled flamefront.
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Huggins
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5/17/2006
22:25:14
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Actually the ford 6.0's have the ability to make 3 injections of fuel if needed with their split shot injectors... Most diesels including the new twin turbo Ford 6.4's coming out are going over to 30,000+ psi fuel systems... The duramax was the first to do this among the big three, then Dodge - which actually uses the largest amount of fuel pressure, and now Ford... Previously they relied on the high pressure oil systems to create the high fuel pressure needed to inject the fuel...
Keep in mind diesels have the ability run on a 100:1 fuel mix while idling and due to the fact that they don't use throttle plates "wide open throttle all of the time" and they use the friction created by air being compressed to ignite the fuel, they do very nicely off of turbos... Infact the supercharger was created or developed to use in combonation with a twin turbo setup for a two stroke diesel engine... Diesel's love forced induction as much if not more than gas engines...
Going back to the new 6.7l, I think they will be unveiled with atleast 390 or 400hp and around 700 to 800 lbft of torque, other wise what's the use in buying something with that much fuel consumption and have only the same amount of power as the previous smaller engine??? Not only that, but it'll have to have those kind of numbers to compete with the new twin turbo "small turbo feeding bigger turbo" 6.4l powerstroke that ford is unveiling to replace the junk 6.0l and not to mention the fact that Dodge is also suppost to be unveiling their new 4500 and 5500 series in the next year or two with that very same diesel...
I'm just glad that their finally coming out with a new 6 speed automatic that is capable of handling the torque and power outputs of the diesel...
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