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Glen
Gen III
 
7/11/2001
13:52:11
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Hey, i was pokin around this site and i noticed that Paxton makes a SC for the '01 4.7s... What do you guys think of paxton stuff. Im still leanin to Kenne-Bell, but could this new charger be "better?" I guess what im askin is, whats the advantages of a centrifugal charger over a screw design, or viseversa. I have been seriously looking into gettin a SC for sometime now, and the budget is getting close to ready. Tell me what you guys think! hehehe
'01, CC, SLT, 4.7, Auto, 3.55 LS
Gibson single catback. Z-tube.
Jet Chip Stage II. 180 T-Stat. Bosch 4417s.
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Glen
Gen III
7/11/2001
13:54:09
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OH yeah.... heres the link to the site i found...
http://www.superchargersonline.com/product_detail.asp?PartNumber=PAX1201216
http://www.superchargersonline.com
'01, CC, SLT, 4.7, Auto, 3.55 LS
Gibson single catback. Z-tube.
Jet Chip Stage II. 180 T-Stat. Bosch 4417s.
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Smokin
Dakota Enthusiast
7/11/2001
15:12:25
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I called the guys at Superchargers online and they told me that the Novi kit should produce around 5-6 psi of boost. They do make a size smaller pulley that would crank boost up to around 7-8 psi wich which be great. Paxton said with the 5-6 psi increase that a 45-50% in horsepower would be their. They didn't have numbers for the 7-8 psi pulley but I'm sure it would be close to a 60% increase. I've heard the Novi kits are awesome at on the 5.9L. He said he thought it might be better for the 4.7L then the Kenne Belle because the 4.7L is high revving and this superchager would make far more power up top then the Kenne Belle would. Since the Kenne Belle Is a Screw blower it makes ton's of torque which he believed wouldn't be as benefical as the Paxton UNLESS you towed lots of stuff with the 4.7L. He said that Paxton includes a Retard system for the timing and the use of a time advancing PCM was not recommened with the Paxton. Maybe KRC or Mike Leech could custom burn a Pcm just to remove the rev and top speed limiter. With the Paxton you wouldn't need anything else. IMO the Paxton seems to go better with the 4.7L then the Kenne Belle would, even though I've heard sveral 4.7L owners with the K.B. that are very happy. The Kenne Belle is higher priced though and I think I would rather have higher rpm horsepower from the Paxton than monstor low end torque from the K.B. Just what I was told.
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Python97
Dodge Dakota
7/11/2001
16:15:34
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I dont like the Paxton because you have to tap into the oil pan. I want a S/C that is internal lubed.My truck is leased. Is it better to upgrade the TB before getting S/C. What is the simplest S/C to put in?? I also hear alot of people having trouble with the belts sliping off the charger. TRUE?
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Glen
Gen III
7/11/2001
16:28:43
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Hmm. Wouldnt having a bunch of low end torque help accelration? Maybe i just dont under stand the actual relation of HP vs Tq in accelration and quarter mile times. I do think the KB looks better... hehe. Then what about when it reaches full (or close to full) boost. From what i have HEARD, the KB has full boost aroud 2000rpm. That would be an advantage to help get the engine to spin up faster. I guess i just really need to see some dyno sheets and maybe some time slips...
'01, CC, SLT, 4.7, Auto, 3.55 LS
Gibson single catback. Z-tube.
Jet Chip Stage II. 180 T-Stat. Bosch 4417s.
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Jason O.
Dodge Dakota
7/11/2001
16:56:10
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I don't know much about the paxton SC for the Dakota. Fundamentally the screw makes more hp/tq over a lower/larger RPM range The centrafugal does not do much down low but will produce more PEAK power. So in a drag raceing application the paxton may be better. For all around performance the screw is better. Most of the time your driving will be around 2000-3000 RPM. All the power of the screw is right there, the centrafugal its not.
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Glen
Gen III
7/11/2001
17:00:10
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Yeah, concidering im not a drag racer, and it is a 4x4 that i use as a daily driver, the screw seems better. But then again, there are those days when i have to go race some ricers and show them what a truck can do. Who knows....
'01, CC, SLT, 4.7, Auto, 3.55 LS
Gibson single catback. Z-tube.
Jet Chip Stage II. 180 T-Stat. Bosch 4417s.
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Glen
Gen III
7/11/2001
17:43:43
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I know its not a dak, but check this out:
http://us.media.daimlerchrysler.com/special/sema2000/durango_sports_e.htm
'01, CC, SLT, 4.7, Auto, 3.55 LS
Gibson single catback. Z-tube.
Jet Chip Stage II. 180 T-Stat. Bosch 4417s.
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
02:11:05
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the KB will use more fuel, because it is always in full boost. also i'm thinking that it will put more wear and tare on the engine because of it. I also dont think it will be better than the paxton in the 1/4 because if it at full boost at 1500 rpm the torque will just melt the tires. verry pricy too
If you go with the paxton and need to pass someone you can just downshift to get in the higher rpm's. the thing i dont like about Pax, is the oiling system. if your bearing breaks, all of the metal crap goes right into the oilpan and into your engine. I hope the warrenty covers that!
Eric
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