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340party
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1/09/2006
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Anybody here ever remove their front swaybar for better traction? If so what were the results?
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OBIO3
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1/09/2006
02:03:18
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To remove sway bar will have an adverse effect on drivability but nothing serious that i ever found > I assume your talking about rough off road travel traction > and here in lies the great advantage > you increase articulation considerably and traction goes up a great deal > i've done this for as many years as i can recall > you will most likely have a tendanancy to wonder on any groves incountered on dirt roads > my solution was a stearing shock > worked great >
So many problems > So little time
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340party
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1/09/2006
15:19:02
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No, for the drag strip. Weight transfer.
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OBIO3
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1/09/2006
15:31:03
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The sway bar has no effect on straight away driving > It's designed to help you corner better hence the name (sway bar) and as I said, in the rough stuff removel helps articulation for much improved traction
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.boB
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1/09/2006
15:47:14
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Yes, it does slightly improve weight transfer on some cars. But only slightly. Unless you have some serious mods, I doubt you would see any differance on your time slip.
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RJ
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1/09/2006
22:01:22
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I dont remove it just take off the top nuts and swing it down it will not interfear with anything. That way when I leave the track I just swing it back up and re-tighting for drivability on the street. It does help with my 60 ft time.
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OBIO3
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2006
22:09:50
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boB > With all due respect, I would be interseted in knowing how removing the sway bar will benifit traction on a straight smooth serface > Sway bars are connected in such away they perform no service unless twisted in differant angles on either side > dumping a cluch causing squat to the rear end has an identical reaction to both rear wheels > No mater how much the squat no preasure is applied to the sway bar so no work is done by it of any kind > I would be very interested in your thoughts as to how a sway bar works > I'm always willing to learn or be corrected
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340party
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2006
23:12:49
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Thanks for the replies. I know a lot of mustang fox body cars use this trick, just wondering if it worked on dakotas also.
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OBIO3
Dodge Dakota
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1/10/2006
00:01:24
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I still would like to know how this helps > I'm at a lose > by disconnecting the bar what effect does this have on a straight smooth serface > Thanks in advance for your reasoning
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Mike S.
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1/10/2006
12:26:48
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I unhooked my sway bar for a few runs at the track. It seemed to let the drivers side front raise up more than with it hooked up. This will slightly help traction. I saw no difference in times but I have 90/10 drag shocks on the front of my truck. I tried this after reading some old posts about it, but in my case it made no difference.
Mike S.
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Mattleg
Dodge Dakota
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1/10/2006
13:21:15
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Removing the sway bar will NOT affect longitudinal (front-rear) weight transfers. It will however affect lateral (left-right) weight transfer. The lateral transfer is the result of the engine twisting the chassis as it tries to turn the drive shaft. The front sway bar will fight that effect among other things. This twisting effect is negligible for fairly low powered cars and trucks with limited slip differentials and none existent in transverse engine cars. However, it can be a problem for open diff’s as it will cause uneven traction between the rear tires. Ever wonder why our gas tanks are on the driver side, it helps to compensate for that twisting motion of our high torque truck engines. The only way to get our trucks to transfer more weight to the rear is with traction bars that help it squat more under heavy acceleration. An interesting note is that a few modern race cars use what’s called torque tube drive shafts that nearly eliminate the torque twisting the chassis.
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.boB
Dodge Dakota
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1/10/2006
23:11:16
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Some cars (like fox bodies) are not as tight as they should be. On a hard launch, they twist. You can see that because the left front is higher than the right front.
With a sway bar connected, it tries to keep the two wheels on an even keel. What really happens is that it keeps the front end from rising so much. You get less weight transfer, and less traction.
It's a common trick for street cars.
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