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hinman
Dodge Dakota
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12/06/2005
20:43:28
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does anyone know the stock hp for the 94 3.9L? im diong a dyno soon and i would like something to compare the results to
thanks,
chris
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toolfan
GenIII
12/06/2005
21:49:52
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my guess is 175 hp at the wheels 145 or less.
make sure when you dyno it to get the torque as well.
and some mods to slow it down!
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cuzindoug
GenIII
12/06/2005
22:08:19
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Yep 175 at the flywheel. You'll get about 20-25% losses with an automatic, and about 10-15% with a manual, so figure that in as well.
If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.
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Fed
GenII
12/07/2005
17:31:39
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how much torque does my engine have?
180 hp
___ tq
??
Thanks
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
(4.10, limited slip, exhaust, intake, lowered)
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toolfan
GenIII
12/07/2005
18:26:07
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210-235tq
[ and some mods to blow it up]
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Satakieli
Dodge Dakota
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12/09/2005
02:34:49
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At the wheels? it would vary depending on what rearend he has toolfan. With a 4.10 i would guess a little more than that. Couldnt tell you for sure though
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me
Dodge Dakota
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12/10/2005
22:34:33
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toolfan is an idiot he thinks he's mr know it all but he doesnt realize what an moron he makes himself look like.... some 15 year old without a life.. sad sad sad.. I wouldnt trust his information
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Fed
GenII
12/11/2005
00:00:56
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hey mr. me, why dont you go express your feelings somewhere else huh?
im sorry you cannot have things the way you want them...
try viagra?
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
(4.10, limited slip, exhaust, intake, lowered)
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toolfan
GenIII
12/11/2005
13:35:16
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nice one fed! lmao!!
"me" i wish i knew it all!!
when i said 210-235tq i meant at the flywheel! but the rear end being a 4.10 would help!!
!new signature!
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Fed
GenII
12/11/2005
14:21:46
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hahah
i need money! to make that 2 in 210 to a 3 as in 310 ft. lbs. of torque!!
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
(4.10, limited slip, exhaust, intake, lowered)
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toolfan
GenIII
12/11/2005
16:23:22
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fed you need a 318ci
i did a run 0-103mph lookin to post it on here soon....
!new signature!
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Fed
GenII
12/11/2005
17:03:18
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one day a V8 will be chillin' under my hood...but not anytime soon!
ehhhhhhh
SHOW ME THAT VIDEO!
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
(4.10, limited slip, exhaust, intake, lowered)
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Satakieli
Dodge Dakota
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12/12/2005
22:52:38
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200+ lb ft torque at the fly wheel? woah hold on a sec. maybe a diesel can pop that much. Torque is all about crank throw. In the chrysler engines its usually quite generous but i dont know if its that generous. Most engines only put out (on average dont quote me) 60-150 at the flywheel. Otherwise if you had a 4.10 with say 200 lb ft of tq at the fly wheel, that would mean in a perfect world 820 FT lbs of torque at the wheels. Remember the gears multiply torque by their ratio. So a 2.00 would double a 3.00 would triple etc.
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Fed
GenII
12/12/2005
23:03:50
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wtf?
you on acid my friend?
drug abusers aren't wanted here...
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
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wtf
Dodge Dakota
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12/13/2005
16:40:56
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Fed, what are you on, disco biscuits ? Maybe steroids with that fury. That's a little extreme, just because he's a little low on the flywheel torque. He's right about the rest; ratio is taken into acount on a dyno pull to bring it back to understandable #s.
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Fed
GenII
12/13/2005
18:48:57
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no come back...sorry
give me a year
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
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Mopar318
GenII
12/13/2005
21:17:51
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My V-8 made 184 RWHP and 245 RWTQ on a mustang dyno at 90 some degrees, And it was humid as hell.
Thats around 315 Torque at the crank for my 318.
My rice eater
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toolfan
GenIII
12/14/2005
00:58:21
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wtf Satakieli-hahahah lmao
fed i would take that 820ft lbs of tq hehe
put away the calculator-Satakieli
and when i said 210-235ft lbs tq i meant at the flywheel. which i think is near the amount the 3.9 makes!
Sorry posted signature on 12/12 - 12/13/2005 that messed up FIREFOX screens! It worked ok in Internet Explorer. I'M SORRY!! Sincerely TOOLFAN
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Satakieli
Dodge Dakota
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12/15/2005
20:22:46
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FYI this is considerably elementray since my specialty is rebuilding and repairing transmissons and drivetrains. Remeber toolfan that torque is transfered through your transmission which is also a torque multiplying device, then through a driveshaft, into a differential and then to the wheels. So even if you lose 10% of your power in a manual you still have you're differential to multiply your flywheel torque. 200+ at the fly wheel? thats a bit extreme. Maybe at the wheels i would believe. Mopar 318 you have it wrong. Your differential is what helps create that torque. so you're fly wheel torque is significantly lower than you think. Granted yes you DO lose power through you're drivetrain. its no where near as much as you think. Its simple physics and leverage at work.
Scroll down to dominant physics on this page and you'll get a better understanding of this.
http://web.mit.edu/2.972/www/reports/differential/differential.html
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toolfan
GenIII
12/15/2005
22:26:32
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yes, Satakieli i understand that the trans is a tq adder depending on the gear ratio. now even with feds rear gears being 4.10 his engines tq was not change in the process of changing out his gears to the 4.10s from the 3.55 correct? now we are rating engine tq and not rwtq! the gears will effect how that tq gets to the ground. with his truck having the 4.10s over the 3.55s he gave his engine more leverage correct? i have a ? that you may be able to answer, if the gears are tall in the trans do you gain hp and loose tq? i looked at the page by the way.
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Mopar318
GenII
12/15/2005
22:31:55
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Satakieli: Sure.....whatever you say.?.?.?.?.?...
My V-8 made 184 RWHP and 245 RWTQ on a mustang dyno at 90 some degrees, And it was humid as hell.
Thats a 315 Torque at the crank for my 318 and 236 HP at the crank with a 22% drive line loss calculated in.
I could put 4.10 gears in my truck and It would have the same HP and Torque on the dyno as my 3.55 gears. You have your facts all wrong. You dont even have one clue on how a Dynomometer even works. So dont state fake facts and tell me Im wrong.
Anybody reading this post look at the post made by Satakieli. WTF is this guy on.
My rice eater
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