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toolfan
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10/24/2005
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is this a good kit for a stock 5.2? it's $455.39.
will the stock valve train be strong enough?
Cam Style: Hydraulic roller tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range: Idle-6,200 RPM
Intake Duration 050 inch Lift: 208
Exhaust Duration 050 inch Lift: 216
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 208 int./216 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration: 272
Advertised Exhaust Duration: 278
Advertised Duration: 272 int./278 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.467
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.482
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.467 int./0.482 exh. lift
Lobe Separation (degrees): 119
Intake Valve Lash (in): 0.000
Exhaust Valve Lash (in): 0.000
Computer Controlled: No
Lifters Included: Yes
Lifter Style: Hydraulic roller
Valve Springs Included: No
Retainers Included: No
Locks Included: No
Valve Stem Seals Included: No
Timing Chain and Gears Included: No
Assembly Lubricant Included: Yes
Pushrods Included: No
Rocker Arms Included: No
Gaskets Included: No
Quantity: Sold as a kit.
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daddio
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10/24/2005
12:42:19
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i think if you're gonna rev it past 5200-5500 you'd be better off with performance springs & guide plates too.
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Fed
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10/24/2005
12:47:25
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hmm, who makes it?
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ScojoDak
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10/24/2005
15:10:27
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How many miles on the motor?
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gerkey4.7
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10/24/2005
17:11:20
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you wont run the valves into the piston with that set-up, but with the stock valve springs you will float the valves bad. replace those as well. you might as well inspect your valve stems, valve guides and make sure the stems are perfectly square and theres no excessive clearance in the valve guides.
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toolfan
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10/24/2005
19:01:24
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the motor has 151,000 miles and its a Mopar kit.
i do think i will do rollor rockers but doing a cam would give me the preformance gains i am after. just dont know if the old 318 is up to it.
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Fed
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10/25/2005
12:22:51
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you might want to rebuild her with all the hp shes gonna be
throwing...
but that is a bunch of money my friend.
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gerkey4.7
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10/25/2005
14:59:53
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you can go as big as 1.6/1 rockers (with a mildly modified cam) before running the valves into the piston, if that is what you are looking for, but yes - an overhaul is in order.
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toolfan
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10/25/2005
18:35:15
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my buddy has a 318 LA 141,000 put a cam in it and it seems like the lowend took fine.
the roller rockers i want to run are the 1.7 harland rockers. but the 1.6 are better for the top end hp correct?
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ScojoDak
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10/25/2005
19:05:42
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toolfan, the magnum motors come with 1.6 ratio rockers. They're just not rollers.
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toolfan
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10/25/2005
20:04:02
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i know that.
i have a lot of low end grunt all ready but alittle more would never hurt. the only thing it will hurt is my 0-60 dew to spin and the BFGs.
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Fed
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10/25/2005
20:36:41
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toolfan, whats your current 0-60 time?
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toolfan
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10/25/2005
20:57:05
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8.063 with spinning through 1st. i have new tires that are a foot wide. they grab good and a home made intake that made a huge difference.
i think if i grab i should run in the 7sec range.
do you know you time?
btw that was on a g-tech thing.
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Fed
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10/25/2005
22:26:30
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pretty quick for a fairly stock truck...
my time is around 9.7 spinning like half way through 1st which goes to 40 mph for me
is that gtech accurate? what is it?
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toolfan
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10/25/2005
22:49:10
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i don't know how accurate it is because it said my friends r/t was running 15.5 and its s/c and has a full exhaust system with no cats. they supposely run a 15.1 stock.
hey thats pretty damn good for a heavy a$$ truck.
but the 2 extra cylinders aren't just there for the sound.
if you where running with that jeep than you would probably take a chevy s-10 4.3. are jeep was beating my friends s-10 4.3.
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toolfan
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10/25/2005
22:56:01
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ooops missed one of your Q.
its what they will use in the car magazines to get all of those times. 0-10-20-30-40-50-60-70-80-90-100mph and 1/4 times
it plugs into the power outlet and you place it in the middle of your windshield. it calibrates its self and than says "start when ready"
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Fed
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10/28/2005
10:38:41
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damn thats awesome, that would be cool if they were exact...
how much do they run? do u know where i can get one possibly?
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toolfan
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10/28/2005
19:28:10
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$200 ithink
i know they advertise them in car magazines.
i use my friends and i will ask him how much and were he got it.
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toolfan
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11/01/2005
00:30:13
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the g-tech was a $100 and he said he got it off of summit racing.com
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Fed
Dodge Dakota
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11/01/2005
12:23:57
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I dont know if it'd be worth buyin'...it read your friend ran 15.5
in the 1/4 with a supercharger...ehhh dont know 'bout that
?!?!
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toolfan
Dodge Dakota
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11/01/2005
18:39:37
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his truck hasn't been chip so the truck was bonce off the rev limiter in ever gear. i think the truck would pull 14.00 because it hauls a$$.
i think its pretty damn accurate because my truck ran right around were i thought it would.
one day i will run my truck down the drag and tell you how accurate it was.
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