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9/11/2005
17:59:43

Subject: Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants = Better MPG
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With Regular Gasoline above $3 per gallon in many areas, it is a good time to think about ways to increase fuel economy (mpg).

FUEL ECONOMY a.k.a. MPG

Fuel economy can be very difficult for the consumer to accurately gauge. If you fill up at a warmer part of the day one week compared to the previous week you can sometimes see a huge fluctuation in MPG just based on that. Also, the pump may have stopped pumping sooner this week compared to last, making it "seem" like you used less (or more) gallons of fuel.

It has been PROVEN by Amsoil (and other leading oil manufacturers and suppliers) through use of industry accepted fuel economy tests, field demonstrations (and as witnessed by most of our customers), that switching to synthetic oils and lubricants can (and does) improve fuel economy (mpg).
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VISCOSITY can increase Fuel Economy (MPG)

Depending upon your driving habits, conditions, and climate ... switching viscosities can improve fuel economy also. I've observed a MPG increase when switching grades (5w-30 vs. 10w-40).

Tighter government regulations and increases in engine manufacturers’ demands are calling for more fuel efficient lubricants. Amsoil Synthetic Motor Oils reduce friction and drag better than petroleum oils, resulting in significant fuel economy increases.

In a 1.2 million mile demonstration, AMSOIL Lubricants showed a 4.5% increase in gas mileage. Other tests have shown increases of as much as 15% under certain weather and driving conditions.

Yet, because every vehicle is different, as are driving habits and conditions, it is difficult to accurately project an exact increase.
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9/12/2005
13:14:20

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synthetic oils are intended for race use. they eat away at gaskets and are intended for race motors that are constantly tore down and rebuilt. unless you rebuild your motor often or want a motor that leaks all over, use synthetics.



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9/12/2005
18:32:50

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man u r a dum-ass.

mobil1 is synthetic and not just for race cars.



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9/12/2005
22:18:45

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mmmm... expensive oil



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9/13/2005
06:38:06

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It doesn't have to be expensive. You can become one of MY dealers and get it for a fair price including my kickback. As a dealer you can also recruit others to become dealers and get some kickbacks yourself.



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9/13/2005
08:23:02

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expensive? no!

i just bought the amsoil 5w30 25k mile oil and
it was cheaper than mobil1's new 15k mile oil.



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9/13/2005
19:00:18

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Wow, you get to keep all that dirt and crud in your oil for 25k miles. Can you say SCRATCH....SCRATCH....SCRATCH....SCRAAAAAAATCH....



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9/13/2005
22:42:45

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I use Amsoil synthetics in my truck and wife's car. T he gas mileage has increase on both due Amsoil.

92 and 97 Daks both with many mods.

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9/14/2005
02:23:50

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STUPID STUPID STUPID...OIL HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH GAS MILEAGE, UNLESS OF COURSE, YOU DONT HAVE ANY OIL AT ALL. TELL ME AMSOIL MAN OR ANY OF YOU GENIUSES WHO SAY DIFFERENT. OIL BREAKS DOWN AFTER SO LONG, SO THIS MUST MEAN GAS MILEAGE GETS WORSE RIGHT.... THEN TO GET MAXIMUM MILEAGE, WE SHOULD CHANGE THE OIL AT EVERY FILL-UP OF GAS.
DA.M SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE F ING STUPID.



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9/14/2005
06:40:08

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Using beavernuts logic there is no point in ever changing you oil. Maybe I can sell him my used oil.

Wadak, how much of an increase have you seen in your gas milage?



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9/14/2005
07:11:30

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"Wadak, how much of an increase have you seen in your gas milage?"

I'm sure just as much as amsoil told him to see since he is such a mindless fvcking sheep



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9/14/2005
10:30:36

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bet he bought a tornado too because it would save him gas.



what does a sheep do...
bah
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9/14/2005
10:32:24

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bet he bought a tornado too because it would save him gas.



what does a sheep do...
bah
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if you get better mileage with thinner oil, hell we should never change our oil so that it is completely broken down. then it will be as thin as amsoil sh$t.



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9/18/2005
16:52:33

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Oil doesnt break down after time, it gets dirty and thickens. Think about it all the blow by gasses getting by the piston rings and into the oil. Thats why it turns black, not because it breaks down. Oils also have detergents in them that are designed to clean the engine through use of the filter. I dont know about a synthetic being better on gas unless it completely removes friction out of the equation, or burns in place of gas. Throw some physics on the table that make sense and we'll see whats true



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9/19/2005
21:13:57

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Oil Appearance ... has little to do with an oils ability to protect. The color is basically partially burnt hydrocarbons and fine particles.

All oils will turn dark (black) given enough time. I've found thinner oils will turn dark quicker than thicker oils. Color isn't the be-all-end-all sign that an oil should be changed.
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9/19/2005
21:21:44

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Satakieli,

In addition ..... Your comment, "I dont know about a synthetic being better on gas unless it completely removes friction out of the equation, or burns in place of gas."

Answers: (1) Completely Removes Friction ??? ... NO ... Synthetic Lubricants REDUCE Friction. (2) Burns In Place Of Gas ??? ... NO ... Synthetics are MORE STABLE than conventional oil and you will see less oil consumption ... and in most cases absolutely NO OIL CONSUMPTION.
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9/19/2005
21:29:58

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How to save money on fuel … with AMSOIL.

It does little good worrying about whether fuel prices will go up or down. Very few people have control over the price of fuel at the pump. What you should focus on, then, are things you can control.

Foremost among these are the lubricants you use in your engine and drivetrain. Synthetic motor oils, transmission fluids and gear oils have a proven reputation of increasing fuel efficiency. AMSOIL has been the leader in synthetic lubrication for automotive service since 1972, hence its name "The First In Synthetics." Compared to conventional petroleum based lubricants, AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils yield significant increases in fuel economy.

Not everyone is able to downsize their vehicle every time gas prizes go up, but whether you downsize or not, you'll want to switch to AMSOIL synthetic lubricants for more efficient, cleaner engine operation.
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Ten Tips for more efficient engine operation

1. Pay attention to how you drive.
Don't exceed highway speed limits. Use moderate-to-easy acceleration. Gas mileage is negatively affected by fast acceleration and fast deceleration. Use cruise control on highway trips. Maintaining a constant speed helps reduce fuel consumption.

2. Engine maintenance
Maintain a properly tuned engine. Dirty spark plugs do not create the maximum spark and cause reduced horsepower and increased emissions.

3. Limit reliance on air conditioning
Limit use of air conditioning, especially during hot summer days. Yes, we know it's not as comfortable but the issue here is saving gas.

4. Synthetic lubricants
Switch to synthetic motor oil and drivetrain lubricants. Independent tests show savings of five to eight percent using AMSOIL synthetic motor oil, gear lubes and ATF.

5. Air filter
Install clean air filter as needed. To get optimal efficiency from your engine, it has to breathe.

6. Aerodynamics
Keep windows rolled up at speeds over 40 mph. Open windows when driving over 40 mph can create a wind drag that will lower your mileage. Avoid use of roof rack. Reduce aerodynamic drag and improve your fuel economy by placing items inside the trunk whenever possible. Sun roofs also disturb smooth aerodynamic air flow and reduce mileage.

7. Tire Maintenance
Properly inflate your tires. Keep tires balanced and rotated regularly. Use radial tires for less friction between tire and road. Keep front-end aligned for better mileage and longer tire life.

8. Excess weight
Pack light and clean out your trunk. Every 200 pounds of unnecessary weight shaves one mile per gallon off your gas mileage. You would be surprised how much stuff most people carry around in their trunks that they aren't using.

9. Minimize Idling.
Idling any longer than a minute wastes gas and one minute of idling uses more fuel than restarting your engine. When possible avoid drive-thrus. Idling for as little as 10 minutes while you sit in line can waste 5 or 6 miles worth of gas. Limit warm-ups to 30 seconds. Allowing your vehicle to idle excessively wastes gas.

10. Plan and combine your trips.
Make a list and do all your grocery shopping once a week. Car pool, hike it, bike it or use public transportation if possible.

REDUCE AMERICAN DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL
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9/20/2005
00:33:57

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Satak, have you ever heard of thermal break down.
Amsoil man, Im not knocking your product, as it is probably one of the best for the purpose it's intended for, tO protect the engine and its moving parts, "protecting" being the key word. especially with todays engines. however the Mpg increase? souldnt be used as a marketing tool. please post the independant, and amsoils results to prove me wrong. your tips you shared, should be common sense to everyone, but then again, fresh hot coffee at mcdonalds being hot, should be also. I would like to see those results if you could post them please..once again, not knocking your products. Being a mechanic for 32 years, the cleanest engines, and longest life Ive experienced were from diehard, Quaker State users..thanks



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9/20/2005
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not to mention that synthetic oils in general eat away at gaskets and cause many leaks. i am also a mechanic for the last 30 years and everytime i have to replace gaskets, i ask the customer what type of oil they use. 9 times out of 10, if im replacing a gasket because of a leak, they had been using synthetic because it "got them better gas mileage".



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9/20/2005
12:55:57

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yeah I want to see thease INDEPENDENT tests to come on back your product



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9/20/2005
22:47:13

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To the sceptics,

There have been many independent tests. Either try it for yourself, or check back issues of most major automotive magazines for articles. WHY THIS RESPONSE YOU ASK ??? Because ... No matter what I posted ... you would still be sceptical.
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To the mechanic with 30 years experience,

Synthetic Motor Oil Myths

Let's put to bed some of the objections you will hear concerning the use of synthetic engine lubricants (some are old debates ... some are new): (Your concern is answered in Myth #1)

Myth #1: Synthetic motor oils damage seals

Untrue.
It would be foolhardy for lubricant manufacturers to build a product that is incompatible with seals. The composition of seals presents problems that both petroleum oils and synthetics must overcome. Made from elastomers, seals are inherently difficult to standardize. Ultimately it is the additive mix in the oil that counts. Additives to control seal swell, shrinkage and hardening are required, whether it be a synthetic or petroleum product that is being produced.

Myth #2: Synthetics are too thin to stay in the engine

Untrue.
In order for a lubricant to be classified in any SAE grade (10W-30, 10W-40, etc) it has to meet certain guidelines with regard to viscosity ("thickness"). For example, it makes no difference whether it is 10W-40 petroleum or 10W-40 synthetic, at -25 degrees centigrade (-13F) and 100 degrees centigrade (212 degrees F) that oil has to maintain a standardized viscosity or it can't be rated a 10W-40.

Myth #3: Synthetics cause cars to use more oil

Untrue.
Synthetic motor oils are intended to use in mechanically sound engines, that is, engines that don't leak. In such engines oil consumption will actually be reduced. First, because of the lower volatility of synlubes. Second, because of the better sealing characteristics between piston rings and cylinder walls. And finally, because of the superior oxidation stability (i.e. resistance of synthetics against reacting with oxygen at high temperatures.)

Myth #4: Synthetic lubricants are not compatible with petroleum

Untrue.
The synthesized hydrocarbons, polyalphaolefins, diesters and other materials that form the base stocks of high quality name brand synthetics are fully compatible with petroleum oils. In the old days, some companies used untested ingredients that were not compatible, causing quality synthetic lubricants to suffer a bad reputation. Fortunately, those days are long gone. Compatibility is something to keep in mind, however, whether using petroleum oils or synthetics. It is usually best to use the same oil for topping off that you have been running in the engine. That is, it is preferable to not mix your oils, even if it is Valvoline or Quaker State you are using. The reason is this: the functions of additives blended for specific characteristics can be offset when oils with different additive packages are put together. For optimal performance, it is better to use the same oil throughout.

Myth #5: Synthetic lubricants produce sludge

Untrue.
In point of fact, synthetic motor oils are more sludge resistant than their petroleum counterparts, resisting the effects of high temperatures and oxidation. In the presence of high temperatures, two things happen. First, an oil's lighter ingredients boil off, making the oil thicker. Second, many of the complex chemicals found naturally in petroleum base stocks begin to react with each other, forming sludge, gums and varnishes. One result is a loss of fluidity at low temperatures, slowing the timely flow of oil to the engine for vital engine protection. Further negative effects of thickened oil include the restriction of oil flow to critical areas, greater wear and loss of fuel economy. Because of their higher flash points, and their ability to withstand evaporation loss and oxidation, synthetics are much more resistant to sludge development.

Myth #6: Synthetics can't be used with catalytic converters or oxygen sensors

Untrue.
In fact the very low ash content of synthetics will extend the life of every exhaust system component.

Myth #7: Synthetics void warranties

Untrue.
No major manufacturer of automobiles specifically bans the use of synthetic lubricants. In point of fact, increasing numbers of high performance cars are arriving on the showroom floors with synthetic motor oils as factory fill. Which may not make the dealers too happy since oil changes usually lead to other service work.

Myth #8: Synthetics last forever

Untrue.
Although some experts feel that synthetic base stocks themselves can be used forever, it is well known that eventually the additives will falter and cause the oil to require changing. However, by "topping off", additives can be replenished. Through good filtration and periodic oil analysis, synthetic motor oils protect an engine for lengths of time far beyond the capability of non synthetics. Amsoil's unique additives packages allow for extended drain intervals.

Myth #9: Synthetics are too expensive

Untrue.
Tests and experience have proven that synthetics can greatly extend drain intervals, provide better fuel economy, reduce engine wear and enable vehicles to operate with greater reliability. All these elements combine to make synthetic engine lubricants more economical than conventional non synthetics. In Europe, synthetics have enjoyed increasing acceptance as car buyers look first to performance and long term value rather than initial price. As more sophisticated technology places greater demands on today's motor oils, we will no doubt see an increasing re-evaluation of oil buying habits in this country as well.

Myth #10: Synthetic oils contain detergents that can make the oil seals leak in older cars

Synthetic lubricants do have an inherent detergency that cleans and removes conventional motor oil deposits left over in an engine. However, motor oils are designed to help swell seals slightly to prevent leakage. The only time you would observe seal leakage is if the seals are already damaged or showing signs of leakage around them. As long as the vehicle has been well maintained, and in good mechanical condition, it can be switched to a synthetic lubricant at any mileage.
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There are other MYTHS and non-truths circulating the forums, garages, and race tracks. The nine above are just a few that I wanted to address.

Conclusions

Since their inception, manufacturers of synthetic motor oils have sought to educate the public about the facts regarding synthetics, and the need for consumers to make their lubrication purchasing decisions based on quality rather than price. As was the case with microwave ovens or electric lights, a highly technological improvement must often overcome a fair amount of public skepticism and consumer inertia before it is embraced by the general population. But the word has been getting out as a growing number of motorists worldwide experience the benefits of synthetic lubrication. The wave of the future, in automobile lubrication, is here, and Amsoil has lead the march, recently celebrating their 30th year in business. For the environmental enthusiasts, the use of synthetics could reduce waste oil disposal by 80%, so if environment is your thing, then synthetic lubricants should be your choice.
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