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OBIO3
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9/03/2005
17:32:50

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Idano > Ty for that reply > I do understand what your sayimg > As I see it the new chip takes over timing curve and advances the timing > I'm thinking I'm not being very clear > Sorry > If the chip does as I believe it does and takes control of timing advance, does it also compensate for altitude > And in reality same things goes for fuel > The most important function of the truck computer is constant fuel and timing adjustments > When the chip takes over these functions does it also do constant adjustments or is it Locked at a higher timing setting > This chip seems to have 3 settings leading me to believe it does not do veriable settimgs other then RPM timing adjustments > I'm probably not understanding something making my thinking unrealistic >



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9/03/2005
19:23:12

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My guess is that the programmers, SC/Hypertech, rewrite the tables in the PCM for both open and closed loop modes. The PCM would use the new values in the rewritten tables to make adjustments. i.e. stock table says 'x' amount of advance for 'abc' conditions, rewritten table says 'y' amount of advance for 'abc' conditions



GraphiteDak
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9/04/2005
21:50:25

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When I lived in Payson (5,000 ft and above) we advanced our timing to the max to get any power we could up there.
When we would drive to Phoenix we'd get pinging on occasion and pop the hood and bump the timing back a tad.
That was on distributor type engines with carbs of course :)


I never heard of the 1 degree per 1,000 ft before, but it could be fairly accurate.



OBIO3
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9/04/2005
22:19:56

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Mostly we used a vavumn guage to set timing > advancing till it went backwards a bit then backin off to highest reading and as a rule backing off one more point > if at this point we could stop the engine and floring it at same time then restart with no kickback it stayed there > on the higher compresion engins of the time this worked put to 5 degrees at our 5000 feet elivation > smaler lower compression engins could handle a bit more > I run fords at the time and as i moved up to newer cars i moved my engine to that car > i had a rare 390 --- 385 HP that came factory equiped with 3 duces and a very large breather on top covered with a full sized thunderrbird > light blue or what ever This engine was a 4 bolt main bearing and 1962 model year



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9/10/2005
15:43:32

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Dyno #'s, for a 4.7, in all the setting, with all the octane ranges?

I guess you weren't coming here when I posted mine?

Anyone who want's them, and can post them for us again, I'll e-mail them to you.





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9/10/2005
15:59:18

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Modain,

You asked for it.........the dyno graphs I mean,

You've got mail!

;-)



modain
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9/11/2005
02:22:48

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Thanks Todd.

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2002 Graphite QC SLT Plus, 4.7L, NV3500, Superchips 3715, 3.92 LSD, loads o'fun...
2001 Patriot Blue Durango SLT, 4.7L, 45RFE, Superchips 3715, 3.55 Open (for now)


scottdak
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9/11/2005
17:07:03

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I ran 89 octane in tow mode pullling 5200lbs and had no pinging at all. Maybe it depends on what mods you have.



Kowalski
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9/12/2005
17:07:55

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Yup, depends on mods, altitude, grade, gearing, tire size...many things.

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