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schmidtmike
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7/10/2005
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I have been talking with locals who know every aspect of the dakota, and the more I talk to them, the more I want to swap a 68 Charger 383 4bbl into my 89 Dakota single cab, short-bed, auto truck. I know I need different motor mounts (schumacher creative services). I know it will be very difficult, but I really want to have the fastest truck in town. I saw an add in the paper for a '71 440 6 bbl for $2000. I'm just debating over whether or not I want to put diesel springs up front.
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Dakota5.2
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7/11/2005
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The 383 would be an awesome motor to have in your truck. The 440 even better. I read an article where a guy was able to put a 440 in one. If you already have a 318 in your truck, I would consider building a 360 since it would be a lot easier to put in your truck. Good luck either way.
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Dakota5.2
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7/11/2005
11:21:42
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The 383 would be an awesome motor to have in your truck. The 440 even better. I read an article where a guy was able to put a 440 in one. If you already have a 318 in your truck, I would consider building a 360 since it would be a lot easier to put in your truck. Good luck either way.
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bigblockdak
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7/12/2005
19:34:52
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go with the 440 (no replacement for displacement). the 440 conversion (or any big block conversion) isn't that hard at all i know because i have one and you use your stock springs up front. you wont be running a road course with a big block dakota, so there is no need for other springs. worry more about the rear suspesion, you will need all the traction you can get. big blocks = TORQUE.
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Super-bee
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7/13/2005
01:42:28
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what year do you have the Bib block in?
a 318 is a TIGHT fit in a 97-90 dakota, it can be done, but it will be far from an easy task
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Satakieli
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7/13/2005
09:46:51
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I had to do some body work getting dropping a 360. Remember just because it looks like it works doesnt mean it can handle it. I just finished all the work of dropping in a 360 SMPI in my 88 only to have it slightly bend the frame after a couple hard hits on the throttle. Strengthen the frame and mounting supports. and extend the front end just a little. I do recomend putting in stiffer springs the 383 is a heavy engine, compared to the 2.2L 3.9L or the 5.2L in the shelbys. good luck with the swap let us know how it turns out
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Super-bee
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7/13/2005
10:23:58
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is that a stock 360> or is modded to do that to the frame?
im putting a 95 318 in mine and i dont see it having enough power to do that, granted the 360 has 20 more hp, but its not that much
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Bob Lincoln
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7/13/2005
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Sounds like fun, but if you have emissions testing where you live, it will fail. It's actually illegal to put in a motor that does not comply with the standards from when the vehicle was built.
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satakieli
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7/13/2005
11:25:29
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me stock? HAHAHAHA! of course not. I dont think theres anything left stock in the engine besides the rockers and injectors. i dont know the figures of hp but i guess close to 400 could be more could be less dont really know.
Mods are:
CAI, 68 mm ported TB, 650 cfm single plane intake manifold for efi, Headers, Straight pipes, complete balance of crank,(higher rpm range) shaved heads and head gasket, R/T Magnum head by Mopar, Roller timing chaing and gears, .502/.502 cam, roller lifters, hardened push rods, Lighter flywheel, racing single plate clutch, Msd ignition and 45 shot of nitrous. Complete custom 6 speed transmission made by Richmond Transmissions with short throw, a 9 1/4 rear end with a 3.55 final drive ratio and full carbon composite drive shaft.
Havent had it dyno'ed yet. not a dyno shop near where i live. closest is about 50 miles away (gas milage is horrid). she idles around 1200 rpm so she sounds mean. want to take her to 1/4 but still wondering if i should replace injectors and rockers first. also thinking about an oil sump and a stroker kit. not sure yet.
Heres to hoping of runing low 11s
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gen1dak
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7/13/2005
12:14:21
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Body work to get a 360 to fit an '88? That's a first.
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gen1dak
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7/13/2005
12:24:37
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What'd you have to do?
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N56629
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7/13/2005
13:02:51
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You don't want to put a 440 in or you will end up with something like this-
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IntenseDak39
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7/13/2005
13:17:32
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"68 mm ported TB, 650 cfm single plane intake manifold for efi"
what the fuk are you talking about??
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N56629
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7/13/2005
14:14:25
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"what the fuk are you talking about??"
That's probably the result of not building it yourself.
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IntenseDak39
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7/13/2005
14:23:02
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lol...
either that or being 12 years old.
the best part is the list of parts like he knows what he's talking about.
Off the shelf magnum R/T heads wont flow enough to run what he thinks he's gonna get.
Why a 45 shot of nitrous???
Six speed transmission.. sure.
Carbon fiber driveshaft? this isnt grand turismo 3.
650 cfm intake manifold?? kill yourself
68 mm throttle body on a 5.2-5.9 magnum? you friggin retard
.502 cam? that's all you got?
1200 idle? that's nothing to brag about.. that's a shiatty tune
geez.. i understand that some people get off on trying to sound "cool" on the internet.. but at least try not to look like a dumba$$ while doing it.
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schmidtmike
Dodge Dakota
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7/13/2005
14:26:47
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N56629, that engine is exactly like the one I just bought! It came out of a 70 Super Bee. How is it knowing your truck can outrun an F-150 Lightning?
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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7/13/2005
15:21:30
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I wish it was my truck.
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Satakieli
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7/13/2005
17:18:53
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When i said body work i meant frame work. gen1dak,
Intensedak i could careless about what you think. it works and runs fantastic thats all i have say.
head - Mopar Part # P5007141
Manifold - Mopar Part # MOP5007852
a .502/.502 cam is all i need. Im not trying to break valves or pistons with a shaved head. besides your probably one of those retards that believe in 3/4 cams.
Btw moron its carbon COMPOSITE not fiber. goto a machine shop that turns driveshafts sometime and learn something. It's a steel carbon ALLOY driveshaft you fuking moron. Next time look up the word if its too big for your tiny close minded head to comprehend.
Transmission - http://www.richmondgear.com/
"I realize some people get off by bashing others but jezis h christ do some research first."
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IntenseDak39
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7/13/2005
17:46:32
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sorry i typed the wrong word there buddy.. but your post shows just how ignorant you really are.
i never said mopar didnt have a R/T head.. i never said you couldnt get the driveshaft made.. i never said you didnt have that cam...
but your listing a 68mm throttle body (stock 4.7 size) shows how dumb you are.. and a 650 CFM intake manifold?? WTF??
I'm very proud that you know richmonds web address.. i know they make 6 speed trannies. And it's very cool how you can look up the part numbers to the R/T heads and manifold.. that doesnt mean you got one.
If you spent all this money on transmission swaps, custom built driveshafts, we'd think that you'd at least know that you can buy a set of pistons with a lower compression height or valve reliefs to allow for higher lift cams. A cam with .502 lift isnt gonna get you in the 11's buddy.
i dont know what you are talking about 3/4 cam, but i do know every spec of the camshaft in my motor, what each number means and how it works. I go and build motors while you sit on the internet looking at different things people post about and try to fit by listing a bunch of non-sense as modifications you have done.
did you forget the colf fusion reactor? how about the cross-drilled brake lines?? no piston return springs.. gotta make sure you have good enough piston return springs for that high of a lift of a cam.. while your idling at 1200 rpms.
oh, and when you shaved the heads to raise compression, what did you shave the intake side of the head to allow the intake manifold to bolt up? and what was the final cc' of the heads after the shave? 65cc or 67cc?
a guy that can buy $6000 tranny swaps and $1000 driveshafts sure should be able to afford a digital camera... correct me if i'm wrong
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Old Fool
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7/13/2005
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Satakieli,
Dood, There is no framework necessary to put a 360 in any Generation of Dakota, None. I know I have a Couple Dakotas from a couple Generations. I sell Performance Auto Parts every day, where did you get this 650 cfm intake manifold, and who is it made by? Hell even the smallest Edelbrock intake will flow about 1000 cfm. 68mm T-body on a 'LA' based magnum block with a custom intake, how did you plate it down to fit? And, and, and I can't think about this too much more, or I will be looking around for my 6 year old and seeing if she made that post. Sounds like something She would do.
Later,
Lynn
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bigblockdak
Dodge Dakota
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7/13/2005
18:56:07
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Satakieli, you do not need heaver springs for a big block in a dakota.
"I do recomend putting in stiffer springs the 383 is a heavy engine, compared to the 2.2L 3.9L or the 5.2L"
take a look at the size of the springs under the front end, it's a truck, it's ment to haul heavy loads. and if you ask how i know this, it just so happens I own a 440 dakota. a fully loaded 360 weighs in around 450lbs. a fully loaded 440 tips the scales at around 500lbs.
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