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Spaceout
Dodge Dakota
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6/13/2005
01:40:24
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I have a 99 r/t and I was wondering if there are any chips that you can manually man change the shift points and the fuel intake and that sort of thing with a laptop running linux? Any help is appreciated.
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GraphiteDak
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6/13/2005
01:48:55
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I've always wondered why ppl haven't written software for our Dodges to do that stuff?
WTF??? Instead you got to buy some $300+ programmer that is very limited!
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Chip Marshall
Dodge Dakota
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6/13/2005
07:53:55
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Can you imagine how many cars would be dead, on the side of the road, if software were available to re-program your vehicle?
A software version would initially cost about the same as a handheld programmer. Then the software gets hacked and becomes available to the general populace on the internet via various crack pages.
I can picture people driving down the road with porn messages scrolling across the odometer.
I just don't get a real good feeling about something like that.
Chip
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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6/13/2005
10:46:01
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Chip, how do you hack into a stand alone handheld/laptop device?
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Do it
Dodge Dakota
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6/14/2005
00:56:43
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I'd LOVE to see porn messages on my odometer.
Of course, stopping to reboot the car every so often would kinda suck.
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LESchwartz
Dodge Dakota
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6/14/2005
11:29:11
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Part of the problem is that before you can do anything usefull, you would have to "reverse engineer" the existing controller. Or at least RE far enough to get a good handle on all the parameters stored in the ECM's flash memory. Just how usefull this would be depends on which items are stored as parameters.
A second stage could involve actual RE and rewriting the ECM's control algoritms. (This would depend on whether or not the ECM stores these in a type of memory which can be re-programmed.) This is way more complicated.
I see there are companies selling this sort of thing -- software that runs on your laptop and allows you to manipulate a bunch of stuff the handheld programmers don't. None are available for Dodge though.
Larry
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doh?
Dodge Dakota
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6/14/2005
17:24:42
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really????
not available for dodge???
that means the thing I just spent some bucks on and modified my PCM settings does not exist?????
darn dude I sure got a good imagination for somthin that dont exist and did such a wonderfull job.
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Gaston
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2005
00:18:41
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Well, DOH?.
How about letting us in on your little secret.
What is the name of this "thing" and who makes it?
How do other folks go about acquiring a "thing" of their own?
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
6/15/2005
00:24:59
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It can be done, if there's a demand.
Look how long hacking DTV was in demand!
It was a weekly thing to write and modify CODE to hack them cards unitl a year or two ago :p
DTV would overcome what they did with counter measures. Within 24 hrs some computer geek wrote another code. The eeprom memory would circulate all the sites within another 24 hrs and ppl would write that to their cards and be watching FREE PORN again. All available from posting on the net!
So I used to hear.
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2005
06:41:52
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"darn dude I sure got a good imagination for somthin that dont exist and did such a wonderfull job."
Hey, doh, how about sharing this imaginary program with the rest of us? How did you interface the laptop with the PCM?
Larry, have you ever checked out www.perfectpower.com ?
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LESchwartz
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2005
17:29:58
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Doh,
If you have software that runs on your laptop, post a link . . . I couldn't find anything except the "handheld" style.
Larry
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LESchwartz
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2005
17:41:22
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I've seen the www.perfectpower.com systems. However, these seem to be replacement (or partial replacement) ECM's. What Spaceout was talking about was "re-programmer" software for his existing ECM. IIRC, there was a company making this sort of software for Ford and Chevy.
Larry
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Chip Marshall
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2005
21:54:57
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I thought he was talking about the Superchips programmer...
Anyway...
What I was trying to say, but didn't well enough, was that it is only a matter of time before any software package is hacked and put up for sale on the internet - or posted on a hackers website. There are some pretty smart people out there who use their smarts for evil (sorta like most democrat politicians) and could *hack* the program even further to have it insert malicious code into the PCM.
I think that porn on the odometer is a *little* far fetched, but certainly keeping the engine from running is not.
That's more or less what I meant.
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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6/16/2005
06:42:22
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If you download hacked software, you deserve what you get. Why the concern?
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Chip Marshall
Dodge Dakota
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6/16/2005
07:07:43
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I felt it incumbent upon me to warn the constituency...
Other than that...none...
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