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Seroj
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
15:07:19
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 Subject: Smokin 318
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Need advice. When I start my 91 5.2L Dakota, a big puff of foul smelling smoke is the first thing I see. Smells and looks like oil being burned. Usually it clears up after the first 3 seconds, although once it started smoking while driving around town. I just recently got the truck and it has 140,000 miles.
Any ideas? Could the oil be coming from the valve train?
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Art
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
15:47:19
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More than likely the valve guides are worn cheap fix is new posi valve seals,do a compression check see how cylinders are
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Ry
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
16:44:04
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I agree w/ Art. Likely the valve train, the valve seals and guides...
But then again, sure it's not burning rich with fuel for some reason? What kind of smell, odor? Gas or oil?
If it were the rings, you wouldn't see the smoke during start up, or really anywhere else. It would just consume oil at a rate faster than normal, but you couldn't see it visually out of the tailpipe. Hate when either of these things happen, ugh.
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Travis B
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
17:29:04
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After years of running small block mopars past 100k, I can assure you that a new set of umbrella or similar type of valve seal kit will take care of almost all of the start-up smoke.
About $40 in tools + seals, and 2-3hrs,will fix the problem, if you want to do it yourself.
You'll need a twist down spring compressor and air hose to pressurize the cylinders. (A good time to change your spark plugs also)
The rest is just patience. Removing and replacing valve keepers without losing them.
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Seroj
Dodge Dakota
6/20/2001
11:46:13
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Thanks for the advice. I'm not familiar with the valve seal kits you mentioned. Is there one brand in particular that you recommend? Are they available at regular auto parts stores?
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Art
Dodge Dakota
6/20/2001
14:36:52
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you got 3/8th valves right just use chev 350 posi seals they work best also you need certain tools to do this u need a heads on valve spring compressor,air compressor and line to hook to plug hole,I did it once without air you get the piston to TDC and stuff rope in the plug hole pack it in good keeps the valve up,works but a real pain in the ass,air is much better
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lil red dak
Dodge Dakota
6/20/2001
17:04:22
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Why chubby valve seals in a Mopar????? I have yet to see a chubby 350 with 50,000 mi on it that don't smoke at startup for at least a few rpm.
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Art
Dodge Dakota
6/20/2001
17:09:55
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cause chev stock valve seals are jus o rings on a grove on the valve the posi`s are a fix for this and they fit, mopars posi seals are teflon and they dont even fit the stock guides without machining,at least dodge comes with umbrella seals chevy
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Travis B.
Dodge Dakota
6/25/2001
18:06:57
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Thanks for the follow up Art. I've been out a few days. The'91 (non-magnum) should be 3/8ths stems. Back when I was mechanicin'and working parts stores for a living, the Chevy guys just thought the smoke was "normal" at 30-50k. My '72 D-100 360 smoked less with 380k. Umbrellas are the only way to go for valve seals.
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redscreamer
Dodge Dakota
8/23/2001
07:39:35
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my 99 dakota 5.2 did the exact same thng it was the manifold gasket
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