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bronks
Dodge Dakota
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6/13/2004
20:53:28
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I've recently begun modding my '03/4.7/4X2/Durango Sport. So far I've added the Intense Performance Stage III cold air kit. Butt dyno proves worthy. Better accelerator response and a bit more power through the whole range. Although it's all subjective because the power gain wasn't enough to truly know if I was just imagining it or not. Plus it sounds really cool when I punch it. Which brings me to my next subject:
I want to get enough power to break loose my rear tires from a standing stop...without employing the brake stop or dropping from neutral method. Is this even possible with a heavy Durango? Turbo's and blowers are out, for now.
I also have G&S Motorsports true duals on order.
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FastD
Dodge Dakota
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6/14/2004
12:33:19
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Don't know about a 4.7 D but my 5.9 will break the tires loose, almost too easily. If I were you I'd go and get a Fastman Throttle body, get a cooler thermo stat, one step colder plugs, better wires, exhaust. You can get these heavy beast to move pretty good, it just takes the right parts..I've ran a best of 9.72 in the 1/8 or 15.2 in the quarter which is quick for a tank! Enjoy.
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Kowalski
GenIII
6/14/2004
17:28:08
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Better wires for a coil on plug set up ? Try the HO cams for one of the more effective 4.7 mods.
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bronks
Dodge Dakota
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6/14/2004
17:52:37
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Thanks guys, looks like I have my work cut out for me. I really don't want to mess with the internals but looks like I'm gonna have to, unless somebody tells me otherwise. I reckon HO cams coupled with a Fastman TB will be next on my list. Hopefully there's an owner of 4.7 D out there that does what I want mine to do.
Can anyone tell me the drivability and reliability after the HO/TB install? It's a daily driver and only 6 mos old. Just want a little something to irritate the ricers with is all :)
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Kowalski
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6/14/2004
18:32:41
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No drivability sacrifices with the cams - better torque. TB may depend on size chosen.
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bronks
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2004
17:43:11
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I just got off the phone with the service manager from Dodge in my area. He said the HO cams from Mopar will void my warranty. I've read on this site somewhere that as long it's genuine Mopar parts, the warranty cannot be voided.
Anybody know the real skinny on this? Thanks.
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conig
Dodge Dakota
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6/15/2004
17:56:12
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it shouldn't most dealers will jump to void a warranty as most people are scared of it happening.
however it s federal law that unless the part itself can be proven to have caused the problem then your warranty can't be voided. So i would pose the question of how a mopar part voids the warranty? then be a smart aXX and ask if the 05 daks with the h.o. engine will not have a warranty.
I like to be a smart aXX. the only thing I could see them trying for would be an unquilified individual.
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Kowalski
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6/16/2004
06:37:39
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Or just avoud the whole problem by not ltting them know they're in there...
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bronks
Dodge Dakota
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6/24/2004
04:08:11
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OK guys, I finally took shipment of my GS true duals kit and had them installed ($200.00) today. There were quite a few problems from the get go so let me get to them:
1. Scott Q, although a very nice guy, had told me through various e-mails and phone calls that my system would be shipped anyday (one week after the original 05/28 ship date)and will provide me with a tracking number. That never happened so I called Spintech themselves and spoke to Lorin who was very helpful and professional and gave me an EXACT ship date. I received to packages; one on 06/21 and one on 06/22. No biggie, just keep me in the loop.
2. This is a big one to me: no packing list and no instructions. Without a packing list, how am I to know I have all the items required? Turns out, I was short two(2) 1 foot straight pipes leading into the X-pipe! This really bothered me because it's just plain business sense. It protects them AND me. Instructions, while not totally needed, just needs to be there plain and simple. My intake kit had only a few pieces and it came with 3 pages of instruction, an addendum and illustrations!
3. I have an '03 Durango and it looks like they never even bothered to check the o2 sensor locations for my year. Each pipe had two bung holes, two of which weren't needed at all because there are no sensors on the drivers side, and one was in the wrong place on the other side. So, plug up 3 bung holes and make one new.
4. Either the driver side cross-over pipe was bent wrong, or made too short. We had to add a 4" splice so that it would make it to the X-pipe. Although it did fit before that, we couldn't get a proper seal between the e.manifold and the pipe.
5. Like I said before, add 2 straight pipes before X-pipe. The muffler was about a foot short of its bracket before rear axle.
Other than that, PIECE OF CAKE! Bolt up on the driveway at home...my ass. Total installation time, about 3-4 hrs. at a pro muffler shop.
Seriously, if I'm spending $800.00 on a system that's touted as specially made for my Durango, I expect a few minor snaffoos, but nothing like this. The saving grace is that this system ROCKS! And I will get to that in my next post after I settle down a bit.
d. branco
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bronks
Dodge Dakota
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6/24/2004
04:50:19
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Performance...GS Motorsports true duals
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Just let me say that this system does as advertised. Butt dyno feels noticable increase of power throughout the range. There is NO LOSS OF LOW END TORQUE. In fact I got more than a little chirp from from my rear after punching it from a stop. And this is in a 4500 pound Durango.
But this kit really shines in the mid and upper ranges. It just kept pulling and the next thing I knew I'm doing over 100 mph. It's loud, but not so much that you're hating life in the cab. The sound pretty much goes away after 70 mph. As for tone, I was expecting more of deeper resonance but I think that has to do with more the size of the engine (4.7) than anything else. Being as it is I only have one other mod (intake), I think this system will only complement any other mods I plan on doing.
So all in all:
customer service> C
fabrication (not to be confused with quality)> D
quality of workmanship> B+
performance> A+
d. branco
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