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5/12/2004
08:35:20

Subject: RE: The neverending exhaust debate
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RT in DC: Go to gsmotorsports.com. They have the setup you are looking for. Not to be a jerk but if you had four pipes coming out the back it might look kinda goofy. Maybe if you pulled off some kind of side exit on both sides it'd be ok. The gsmotorsports system is supposed to be awesome though. They have headers for your 5.9L as well I think. You could get the full setup. This is a good thing. It'll all be tuned to work together.



Opie
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5/12/2004
20:23:14

RE: The neverending exhaust debate
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Here goes...
I had been debating the whole exhaust thing since I got the truck last year... I even went to the extent of sawing off the main cat and straight piping it. Since it is about time for an inspection (which includes a emissions test), I decided to go all out.

I have a 4.7L 4X4 and had my GS Motorsports True Dual 2.5 inch exhaust put in on Monday. Let me say that it sounds AWESOME, has a noticeable power increase, and really changes the character of the whole truck to a more agressive tone.

I ordered it last month and took shipment early in May. I tried last Sunday to install it in my driveway, but I didn't have the right tools to detach the stock connections on the manifold. I went to my local "dashboard twenty" muffler shop, gave them the box full of pipes, and told them to make it happen.

Starting off, there were a few problems. The system that I got was not designed for a 4X4. The O2 sensors were in the wrong spots (hit the front drive shaft), the pipe from the driver side across to the passenger side where the Y pipe used to be wasn't long enough, the X pipe was wedged against the floor board, the pipes weren't long enough to meet the factory hangers, and the side outlet pipes were obstructed by the bolt holding on the leaf spring on the passenger side.

To fix this, it took a little welding, a bit of fabrication for the cross over pipe, a little bending of the hangers, and turning the bolt around on the leaf spring. To say the least, it WAS NOT bolt on.

Everything was going fine on Tuesday, but after I got a few miles on it last night, the check engine light came on. I did a little research and the O2 sensor is detecting that one of the cats is not doing it's job. I don't know if this is a function of the factory cats, the O2 sensor location, or the instillation, but I can just cover the light up with some electricians tape.

I don't need a light to tell me I have a bad a$$ exhaust.

In closing, to purchase the exhaust was a little pricey. To have it installed was more expensive. To drive around, setting off alarms and turning heads is priceless. If you don't have a 4X4, go for this one. It is worth every cent.



Lurkin
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5/13/2004
14:47:31

RE: The neverending exhaust debate
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Opie, do you have a RC, CC or QC? I was considering the GSM, but could never get any answers to if/how if fit a 4x4, so I quit trying. No help, no sale.



ZenDak
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5/13/2004
15:33:32

RE: The neverending exhaust debate
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Hey Opie - you may not want to cover that light up. You probably fried your O2 sensors,,which is something you'll want to correct. You may begin to expeirence a loss power,,and a lean condition which can be harmfull to your motor.
I fried mine after putting on headers on my 4.7,,and my mileage went to $hitt. I guess changes like that on exhaust can shorten the life of old sensors...?



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