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Lowrider190
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4/15/2004
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SC r/t vs mustang get auto? Who do you think would win?
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ur dumb
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4/15/2004
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a stock rt will keep up with or beat an auto gt. mine beats the sticks. if you lose and have a sc you suck.
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Yellow99RT
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4/15/2004
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Yeah, a supercharged R/T would have no problem with a stock Mustang GT with an auto. You'd probably want to inform the Mustang owner before the race as they may opt out of it and go home...
Seriously, if a stock R/T can keep pace with or even beat an automatic GT, then a supercharged one can "almost" definately beat one. The almost applies to the fact that the person actually knows how to race.
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Lowrider190
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I mean reg cab by sc sorry guys. My bad I posted this late and i was tired.
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GraphiteDak
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4/15/2004
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Well that's another story now LOL!
Funny thing is everyone seems to base the performance of their vehicle against Mustangs!
Especially the guys in the FWD Ricers.
Sad thing is there is so many different set ups in Mustangs. Old STOCK GT's are nothing compared to now. Some of the LX models were faster. But the old 5.0's can be built cheaper than almost any other car on the road so 5.0's can be about the fastest out there still for a daily driver. Superchargers cost less than $2k for those with ALL fuel management!
Then there's THIS factor I've said time and time again. There are Mustang owners out there who are complete idiots. The ones who can't drive their car which is well capable. And the ones I HATE who throw on false badging onto their Mustangs.
Do you even realize how many Mustangs are driving around that say GT on them and yet have a V6 AUTO????????????????
Those guys suck. People who race them and win go bragging how their Saturn beat a Mustang GT V8, etc.
If you beat a Mustang real easily. You should probably go listen to the exhaust and see if it was even a V8 or a dressed up, fake dual and re badged V6! Because there are hundreds of those here in Phoenix!
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damn
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4/16/2004
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I agree with you! Even more frustrating is the mustang gt stamped on the bumper cover, but svt and cobra badges on the sides and deck lid! Who are they kidding? But with a stock rt, a stock gt should be no problem no matter what the year or model! Especially a rc! If you get him out of the hole, you will beat him in the 1/4 mile, if you race a mustang for much more than a 1/4 mile, you will not win. That damn govorner will kick your ass, and the mustang guy will think he is a bad ass. So after 1/4 mile give him the brake lights to let him know that it is over!
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385CI
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4/16/2004
09:41:11
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You should be able to differentiate a GT from a stock mustang by stance and wheels and tires.
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well no
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4/17/2004
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You sir are a moron! A gt is a stock mustang, and the tires and wheels fit very easily on the 6 banger cars. Fake dual exhaust is another cheap easy way to make a 6 cyl look like a gt. Tires and wheels, gimme a break, does that mean my 4.7 dak is an r/t because it has wheel flares, and r/t rims?
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bump
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4/17/2004
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pmub!
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GraphiteDak
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4/18/2004
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Like I said. There are HUUNDREDS of fake duals and stickers on V6 Mustangs here in Phoenix.
I can REALLY pick out the fakes when it's got a TYPE-R or SiR Badging on a Mustang. Those are usually done by the folks who came from south of the boarder.
Here's a few examples that I have seen and posted on my website, This is NOT a Mustang, but you get the point!
More can be seen at http://members.cox.net/ricers
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JC
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4/18/2004
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It's rather naive to say that a stock GT should be no problem for a stock R/T. Believe it or not, a stock GT (fox body) can put up some very respectable times as can a rc R/T. If you get a good driver in the GT, it will not be a cake walk.
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jim
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4/18/2004
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My buddy has a stock GT and I have a rc R/T with intake and exaust. We have raced a few times, and he's walked me every time.
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Slow Guy
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4/18/2004
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First thing, if you wanna tell if it's a V8 or 6 look for exhaust cutouts in the rear bumper. I've never seen a 6 go through w/ the trouble of adding a GT bumper. Next, if your R/T is stock, you are NOT going to outrun a GT. They run high 13s-mid 14s, depending on configuration.
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Mark
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4/18/2004
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The brand new GT's are very comparable for my set up. It has a better low end but my top end is better. I raced one up to 105mph. At that speed I was gaining on him but he had me off the line and was 50 feet ahead of me. I did have a lot of wheelspin which partially caused such a lead.
-Mark Hryckiewicz
1993 Sport RC SB 5.2L Auto
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Mark
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4/18/2004
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A cobra is a different story, I raced one from 60-110 and he walked right by me. I did impress the guy by putting up a decnt fight but he consistently pulled away at a strong 5-6mph.
-Mark Hryckiewicz
1993 Sport RC SB 5.2L Auto
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Slow Guy
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4/18/2004
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How far from stock is that 5.2?
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Mark
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4/18/2004
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Its very close to stock. Keep in mind that it only weighs 3400lbs which is much less than the newer ones. Besides the performance computer, MSD ignition, synthetic lube in the engine and rear, K&N filter, and dual exhaust... its pretty much stock with no internal engine modications. I did put in a 3.92 limited slip rear which it wasnt orignally equipped with but thats pretty much just an option at the factory.
-Mark Hryckiewicz
1993 Sport RC SB 5.2L Auto
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fast guy
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4/20/2004
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Slow guy is a retard! 13's? Are you serious? stock lightnings 2001 and up run 13.9's and even the cobras cant touch a lightning (unless its an 03 or 04) the 03 and 04 cobras run 13.4's. Thats a 395 horse supercharged 4.6. in a 3600 # car! I've gone to the track and embarrassed stock and modified gt's with my 00 rt. Even get some cobras. The 99-00 lightnings had 380 horse and run 14.1 while the 01 and up have 395 and go 13.9s. Stock gt's depending on year have anywhere from 200- 245 horse. My rt has 250hp and 3.92 (obviously). Their 3.23, and 3.73 gears. They Have better top end, but 1/4 mile sucks.
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Blah
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4/20/2004
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You guys need a clue. Nearly all V8 stangs are 14s or better. The only ones that are not are autos or convertibles. The 99+ GT has 260hp, not 245. The 99-00 Lightning had 360hp and run high 13s stock. The 01-04 has 380 and runs mid 13s stock. The 01 Cobra had 320hp and was capable of mid to high 13s. The 03/04 Cobra has 390hp and is capable of high 12s. The ONLY dakotas I've ever seen in stock form put numbers like this up are the '92 body style 318 5speeds reg cab, the new 4.7 5speed reg cab, and maybe, just maybe a reg cab R/T. These Daks are high 14s so stock for stock, you will only beat slow convertible automatic mustang V8s. Its like an SVT Focus smoking a Quad Cab 4x4 4.7 Dakota, you're putting the best of a slower car agains the worst of a faster car. The ones that buy the slower versions usually don't buy them to race in the first place so deal with it.
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00 RT/BC
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4/20/2004
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Well if it's a 94-98 I'm thinking it will probably be in this range for V8 manual Mustang GT's 0-60: 6.7, 1/4mile: 15.1 according to this page
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The same page says the 99+ GT's are considerably faster at 0-60: 5.5, 1/4mile: 14.1. Either way I think they make good measures of the performance of your dakota.
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Mark
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4/20/2004
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00 RT/BC: I will say that 0-60 and quarter time for the newer mustangs seems right. It had me nicely 0-60 but then the top end was lacking... not bad but not nearly as good as their low end. I matched speed around 90 and started gaining ever so slightly after that.
-Mark Hryckiewicz
1993 Sport RC SB 5.2L Auto
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