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deerridge
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4/07/2004
12:17:53

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What is a mid sized truck? Dakota defined the term with the Gen I. Chevy is calling its Colorado a mid size on their current ads, yet its little diffrent than the old S-10. The Frontier and Tacoma claim to be small trucks, but are only a hair diffrent in size. The Tundra claims to be a full size, but I'm not sure why, its only 400 lbs. heavier and has a long bed like the Dak used to have. The Silverado 1500 short bed weighs the same as the Tundra and carries less load than the Dak and won't actually tow anymore. What are your thoughts and why the is the 2005 Dak getting bigger anyway??

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4/07/2004
12:32:47

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I think it's based on towing and payload ratings.



deerridge
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4/07/2004
15:15:22

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Here's how the Manufacturer's Rate them
Curb GVWR Tow Pay GCWR
Ch 1500 Rc4.8 4430 6400 8200 1970 12600
F150 RC, 4.6 4810 6800 7000 1690 12200
Tunda RC 4.7 4490 6200 7200 1710 11800
Dakota Rc 4.7 3995 5800 6700 1810 10800
Front 3.3sc 4025 5100 5100 1690 9000
Tacoma Rc 3515 5100 5000 1585 9000
Colorado Rc 3605 5150 4000 1733 7600


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4/07/2004
16:15:53

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To me, it's not a full sized truck unless you can fit a 4'x8' sheet of plywood flat in the bed between the wheel wells. If you have to drop the tailgate, that would be a full size short bed.
The mini trucks are lighter and also have lower bed rails - not only is the box narrower, but it's not as tall either.
The Dakota is a true mid size, with a tall box and a substantial feel to it. Use your own best judgement to decide what the pretenders really are.
I'd use size rather than payload ratings, since in some ways a Dakota is more rugged than a full size half ton. For example, when I bought in 2000, the Dakota front end was rated at 3600 lbs. - beefier than the full size half ton Ram; this meant I could run a snow plow that I couldn't on the full size half ton. But it's still a mid size truck; that doesn't make it any bigger.



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4/07/2004
22:17:52

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I agree about the bed rails. Ever look at a Toyota? it would barely hold a six pack without it tipping over the side on corners.



Deerridge
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4/08/2004
11:21:21

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On the bedwall issue. The new F150 has walls so high you can't access anything over the side. The Titan is almost a direct copy too. I'm talking about the 4x4's, we don't have many 4x2's around here.

The plywood sheet gage makes sence to me. Its about as good as any measure. The little Dak will outwork most of them anyway.

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