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Swampdak
Gen III
6/18/2001
20:21:07
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Hows this for wishfull thinking?? The 2003 dodge dakota is now available with three V8 engine options.(1) 235 hp 4.7 (2) 275 hp 4.7 (3) 350 hp 5.7 . I suppose the odds are better that there really is a Candy.
2000 CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT 16.35/82.41
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clint kerley
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
11:18:58
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i would just like to say that i have only done two things to my 01 4.7 dakota. i have put true duals with 2 chambered 40 series flows with no cats and cold air intake, and well i am proud to say that 14.5's have come very soon. didnt expect the truck to be that quick after such simple mods. like i have said before, there can be no bad comments about the 4.7 because there is none. i will tell you one thing though, once they start to produce real mods for the 4.7 i do believe that the 5.9 needs to step back. thats all i have to say for now. kerleyfries
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
19:47:12
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Allthough I don't agree with removing the cat's on yours or any truck (I will spend the money for less restrictive but not remove them.) I do agree and have no doubt the 5.9 will meet it's match if and when major mod's become available. Imagine a complete new set of high performance heads with large valves and performance cam along with forged pistons and titanium rods with beefed up crank. 400+ n/a power right there if it's taken that far. I see no reason why it won't the 4.7 is being put into practicaly everything Dodge makes now truck and SUV wise. Allready 100,000's of units made to date. I am leaning more towards really building up this truck instead of getting a 5.7. I love the OHC potential.
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clint kerley
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
19:56:43
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why do say not to take the cats off. there are mil eliminators out there that take the check engine light away and send the correct voltage to your cpu for correct readings. the computer doesnt know the difference. and one thing about cats is that they suck. there is no power that comes from a cat. if you want power it certainly wouldnt come from a cat. if i would have kept them on my 5.0 it would have never ran 13's
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/19/2001
20:27:47
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Power isn't why I am going to use a Cat. A free flowing cat will be adequate for passing emissions and aceiving good performance as well as do my part for the sweltering planet. I do plan on eliminating the 2 pre cat's however.
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tonic
Dodge Dakota
6/20/2001
02:05:14
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Where can I get some free flowing cats for cheap? Any ideas?
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BH-R/T
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
00:10:50
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I am just amazed at how proud 4.7 guys are , I have a 2000 Dakota R/T cc , and have no fear of a 4.7 , with the mods this motor has available , you could never top 350 h.p. , a 5.9 on the other hand could easily get up to 650 h.p.,and I have a bunch of friends with R/T's that are deep into the 12's in the 1/4 mile , but you say the 4.7 is better , I dont think so.
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clint kerley
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
11:16:16
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lets see here, how many mods are available to you 360 guys?? oh thats right, a whole lot. did the 4.7 liter just come out? yeah i think it did. august is when the big boys start rolling out the products and then we will see. oh yeah and didnt you say that you had a lot done to your rt? give me what you have done to yours and then you might have a little more respect for the 4.7. No way did i ever downsize the 5.9, thats a good motor, but technology just keeps on getting better.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
13:49:14
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What technology.
Ford made a engine identical to the 4.7 to compete with the 426 in nascar back in the 60s or 70s. And everytime chrysler builds an engine with twin timing chains it ends up in disaster. The 4.7 is a good engine the 5.9 is good engine. But the technology is almost the same. Just a diffrent design one for tq and one for Hp and revs. I know a guy with a R/T that comes to the drag strip by my place when he is going down the track he grabed the shift lever and put it in 2 the thing lifted the front tires of the ground. I know it is heavly modified (Chasie and engine) but its still a 5.9. I also know a guy that put a 5.9 in a camaro and when he hit the gas once he broke the engine and tranny mounts. The 4.7 can make power but the 5.9 is capable of making more.
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clint kerley
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
14:32:04
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what technology? single over head cam. coil packs. they brought the hemi back. everything is getting better. now of course they are completely plugged from the factory, but with a little tuning and a couple simple mods you have an economical fast little truck. believe me i have raced the rts. not that big of a deal, even with exhaust like i have. cant fool me
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surferpug
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
18:49:47
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Is dodge going to put 3 cats on all new 4.7s? Luckily I have two cats, one that is just over 1.5' and sits in front of the muffler, the other is 5'8" and sits in my passenger seat
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
22:12:08
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The 4.7's actually cost more to produce than even the new 5.7 Hemi. The 4.7's are great motors with a ton of potential that isn't limited by push rods.
The technology isn't the same either however. Those prevous OHC engines were disasters because the technology hadn't caught up to what they were trying to do. The new 4.7 has proven itself and that is why it's prudution has been expanded and it's going in to several vehicles. With so many vehicles receiving 4.7's now the demand for mod's will be there. Besides 95% of drivers don't do mod's. Those that do are obssesed and online and that's why it seems like we are all doing mod's. How many stock vehicle owners and hang out and talk about their Dak's performance? My Sport will probably sell for more than an R/T. There are at least 10 R/T in my immediate area alone but as far as I know nothing like my 4.7 R.C 5 speed Sport because it's a custom made truck. Dealer's don't order them like that. There was another buyer for my truck the night it came in.
How many 5.9 R/T owners could possibly be impressed by the 4.7 sport. The 4.7 Sport runs faster stock and costs less even though the motor is more exspensive to produce. I have some R/T owners tell me if they had the option when they bought their truck they would get the sam set up I have now instead.
Mar was right that the 4.7 is designed for higher rev's and HP with lower torque than the 5.9 and this is what you want in a race car. Monster TQ is good for low end grunt power but the high rev's and high HP are what you need once you are out of the hole. The 4.7 is still producing great TQ that's way above it's HP so it's not like it's lacking in the TQ department. Beleive it or not both the R/T and 4.7 produce more TQ than the nwe 3.6 Ferrari Spider but it make over 380HP. The Ferrari also uses OHC cams and high RPM's to run as fast as it does.
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aggie97
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
02:11:49
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I guess I got into this thread a little late, but lets look at the previous comment. "Mar was right that the 4.7 is designed for higher rev's and HP with lower torque than the 5.9 and this is what you want in a race car. " I thought these were trucks, not aluminum bodied exotics costing over $150k? I am guessing most are ordering RC 5spd 4.7L's for performance use and not the R/T's. Why? I don't know, lower price maybe? That is like saying you bought a 90 Mustang LX because it was cheaper than a Cobra. I am pretty sure the R/T's are faster than 4.7's because these are HEAVY trucks and it takes torque to get mass moving. It takes horsepower to accelerate it once it is already moving.
I would say if you were to race "similar" 4.7's and R/T's this is how it would run out.
Stop light to stop light.....R/T hands down.
On the highway and 55 to 105, maybe the 4.7.
I do remember when I had my R/T that is did not run worth a darn till it had 10k miles on it and the engine loosened up.
What dodge should do to put this arguement to rest is supercharge the R/T's from the factory and make it compete with the Lightning.....or should I say blow the doors off.
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BH-R/T
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
02:28:05
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Wait just a minute,where are you 4.7 boys getting your info?A 4.7 is NOT faster than an R/T stock!
what are you smoking?A stock reg cab R/T runs 14.92 in the quarter and a club cab runs a 15.11.(published info)And how can a motor with less cubes,less h.p.,and less torque in the same size truck go faster period?This is all common sense folks,2+2=4 remember?A 4.7 will get better gas mileage,and will rev higher,and is new technology,but none of that matters if you are talking about racing,especially racing R/T's.I have decided that I am going to organize a day at the race track to give everyone a shot.4.7 vs 5.9 day.
If you think your 4.7 is faster,then give it a shot.But remember boys,there is no replacement for displacement.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
04:13:29
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Wrong wrong wrong wrong!! 1 st of all most R/T reg cabs run 15.2 to 15 .4. C.C run 15.6 stock. This is from a huge number of well documented runs from a member of the Chigcago R/T club. All reputable publications I read for reg cabs are 15.4. Your macho 5.9 R/T attitude really shows with your 2+2=4,no replacment for displacment attitude. This is dead wrong. Why are engine getting smaller? Why are these smaller lighter engines getting even more powerfull than the ones they replaced?????
How can a motor with more HP and more TQ go slower?? Let's rephrase that. How can an engine that produces marginally more HP and weighs a lot more with an auto go faster than the very light nearly as powerfull high reving 4.7 with a 5 speed???????? I am sick of cruising by R/T's and not having them engage my truck. Who's buys these R/T's to avoid confrentations with lower HP trucks?? Scared mabye?? I am in Vancouver if anyone has a stock or very near stock R/T they want to take up against my 4.7 5 speed limited slip 3.92 whimpy Sport please do. Look for a black reg cab with 16's and no decal's. There's only 1 out here and it's the Jeffster's. Surely one of the several dozne R/T's in the Vancouver area is game. I have driven both which is something most R/Ter's can't say because mine is not available on lot's to test drive.
BTW the 4.7 5 speed does produce more HP but where it counts at the rear wheels. 200 RWHP Go dyno test an R/T. I think with that big heavy auto you will get only 195 RWHP. I don't think the race will even be close if anyone out here decides to bite.
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
10:43:04
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People, how can you compare these two motors while there not even in the same setup! Ok, you got 5-Speed Vs Auto, heavier suspension on the R/T, wheel flares on the R/T, bigger heavier tires and rims on the R/T, lots of extra inside goodies on the R/T.
I was about to order a RC 4.7L 5-speed Dakota, black with 3.92 limited slip rear! But the only thing holding me back was the wimpy tires and rims, non painted front bumper, no handling suspension like the R/T, no wheel flares.
The after-market parts cost more an less to selection an with only a few bolt on parts that will make any difference. Yes I know R/T rims and wheel Flares could be had from dealer, but that still leaves me paying more for them, installing them and still not having a sport
suspension or a matching front bumper. Yes you can get a Hotchkins setup and paint your own front bumper, but that more body work that I want to do or spend out of pocket. I want all drive train mods!
So I got lucky and found a White R/T with Blue racing stripes, mopar bed top, mopar bed cover, tint, an fully loaded. I've been very happy with it's performance! Now having an auto I don't think I would want a stick in a truck, having a stick in a car is required for me.
With a stick you can't hardly drive with a third passenger, or my wife banging up the gears an the clutch, not like I let her drive it that much anyways. And white just looks awesome, can't even see scratches.
Anyway on to the performance, I know this puppy can do high 14's or 15 flat stock, yes I might only have Autolites 3923's and a 180T-stat but with my butt meter this truck could hang with my past S40 running 14.5psi boost with other mods. It ran 14.2 to 14.5 quarter mile.
I like the 5.9L engine, who say's you can't make it a HP engine? I plan on getting a better cam, Mopar R/T 2.02 style, Mod Throttle body, M1 Intake, Headers, Cat back, 8.5 Wires, Crane ignition, shift kit, maybe jet chip, an whatever else I see fit. Sorry 4.7L's but the 5.9L has
a bigger bore which can suck more air which you can turn into more power period! One more thing, I don't dislike 4.7L at all! I like all Daks, now lets crush some rice burners.
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kerleyfries
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
16:44:22
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gee guys are we adults or what?? some of you dont seem like it. we all have similar trucks and we are fighting like little kids. i dont care who has got what engine in what truck. its all a matter of money. the more mods no matter what the size means more ponies and we all know what the result of that is. doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. lets look at the ford 302 5.0 mustang. there are people running 7's at the track if not better. my buddy eric hood runs 8.50's all day in his 90 gt. are they runnin a big block 460 ci in it. no i dont think so. probably because it weighs oh, a whole lot more. nobody can give me that crap about more ci's means more ponies when it comes to mods and money. thanks and feel free to reply
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
18:11:17
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OK, I read this whole thread.
I've had both engines in similar trucks. If you are going to remain fairly stock then the 4.7 is the way to go. If you are looking for maximum performance regardless of cost then get the 5.9 in the R/T. In basically stock or lightly modded form, the 4.7 5-speed will outrun the R/T. Here again, this is a 4.7 5-speed vs the 5.9 Auto in the R/T. The 4.7 will also require the 3.92 gears. It's a whole package kind of deal. You have to get the proper combination to get the performance. My truck has been made-over to R/T specs. Honestly, it's much easier to just get an R/T, although the 4.7 has it's advantages. To date, my 4.7 5-speed has run a best of 14.63 @ 93 mph. In general, most R/T guys have to do quite a few mods to theirs to match that performance number. I'm running a re-programmed pcm and a K&N drop-in filter.
I just returned from a 3000 mile road trip with my 4.7 and a bunch of R/Ts. (We went to the R/T National meet). Last weekend in Topeka Kansas, my truck only ran a best of 14.90 @ 91.5 mph. Luckily, everybody else ran slower also. (Hot & Humid) On the trip, my truck got considerably better fuel mileage than the R/Ts did. Mine averaged 19.5 mpg while the R/Ts averaged 14.5 mpg. I'm sure we all would have gotten better mileage if we would have played nicely and just set the cruise control and steered. But what fun would that have been?
Continue your arguments as I know you must, but it's all in what you actually want in a truck. Right now I enjoy the looks of the R/T, can still tow, have good performance (but never good enough), and still get decent fuel mileage. .....
But I know I'd be happier with just: 100 more hp (5.7 Hemi?), another gear (6-speed), 2" lower suspension (Hotchkis), 2 mpg better fuel mileage and a nicer ride especially while towing. (See, I'm never happy!)
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white
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
18:25:07
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Duner is your 4.7 cc or single cab
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
18:28:48
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Mine's a CC
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kerleyfries
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
18:42:26
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hey is a 4.7 regular cab faster at the track than a 4.7 regular cab 5 speed?
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white
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
19:05:55
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was the 14.63 on street tires?
I have the same truck with mod tb
k&n cone
3'' exhaust
jet chip (currently not on the truck)
Kinda wanted to get an idea what other cc 4.7s were running.
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
20:56:32
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That was with the Goodyears that come stock on the Sport package. I have to leave the line at about 1500 rpm and then just lean into the throttle. I'm hoping to get a set of slicks for this thing and see how it really launches.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
21:56:04
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Anthony. My bumper came painted out and has 16" rims and sway bars stock. The R/T sits only 1" lower stock and I beleive has better shocks 17" wheels a tuned exaust and flares. The exaust I don't really care about since I ripped it out anyways and did a custom 3" Cat-back which is better than even the stock R/T exaust. I throw on some wheels flares and do a 2" drop and I am good to go.
I am with you in that we both look equally as stylish watching practically every riced out Prelude,Civic,Celica blah blah blah disappear in the rear veiw. If your like me they often come after you thinking they gonna show this truck riding ricer wanna be who's boss. He he he he they never heard of the word TQ.
RC 4.7 3.92 LS 5 speed
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Blizzard
Gen III
6/22/2001
22:27:55
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You're gonna break your arm patting yourself on the back!
Eazzzzzzzzzzzzzy there!
My's truck is WAAAAAAAY faster than yours ...
in 2" of snow.
>;o)
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5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
23:18:51
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Are you sure your truck has a rear sway bar? According to the catalog the rear swaybar is included in the wheel and tire package "except on 4x2 regular cab models." I agree the new 16" wheels are better looking then the 15" previous upgrade, and almost as nice as the 17" R/T's. The sport's front and rear bumpers are body colored except for at black strip about 3" wide on the top, since your truck is black it looks like the whole bumper is body colored but not all sports are that way.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
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Absolutley I do have a rear sway bar.I looked at it myself. I have the tire and handling group not just wheel package. I really love these wheels a lot and wouldn't trade them for R/T's anyways. The 15's however are very whimpy. It may also be possible that the smaller rim will help produce even more TQ than the larger 17's. My truck cost within $500 of an R/T with all the options I got so it's not just a cheap wanna be. Your right about that portion of my bumper. Because it's black and the truck is black it looks painted out. I'd rather have the black plastic section however for it will stand up very well to bumps if I accidently nudge something. I will be meeting some friends in the next few week at the track now that it's getting broken in and will post my time. Hoping for a 14.7-14.9 run as is but we will have to see.
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Smokin
Dakota Enthusiast
6/23/2001
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Ahh, I just love this debate. So I might as well add to it. The 4.7L weighs in about the same as the 3.9L V-6. The 5 speed is definitly lighter than the auto. Thus the Sport with 4.7L 5 speed weighs a GOOD bit less than a R/T. A RC R/T will weigh in around 4,000lb's with gas and driver. The Sport will come in around 3,700lb's. Now you say 300lb's, what difference will that make! Well lets think, the weight difference between a CC and RC R/T is 300lb's and their's about .3 tenths of a difference between most of them to! The 4.7L 5 speed wins in weight hands down. Now for Horsepower, It don't matter how much you got at the motor if you can't get it to the wheels! The R/T is rated at 250 and the 4.7L at 230. Those ratings mean nothing! In every dyno I've seen the 4.7L always made more horsepower at the wheels than the 5.9L did. Even the 4.7L auto's made more! So in horsepower stock for stock the 4.7L 5 speed wins! Now in Torque the R/T definitly has more and Torque is a good think to have. But Torque can only do so much. The 4.7L does not lack Torque! Is has more than enough to jump out of the hole. Does it feel as powerful off the line as the 5.9L? No, but seat of the pants feelings aren't right. It's like when you fart and your sure you just craped all over yourself but when you check your all clean! Just a feeling!If you know how to beat on a 5 speed then the 4.7l can overcome the torque disadvantage. Another thing is that the 2nd gear in the 5 speed in the same ratio as the auto's 1st gear! This will also help the 4.7L off the line. I will definitly say with a good launch the R/T can hang with most anything 0-20 mph but after that the Torque falls off and the horsepower must come in and simply put the 5.9L just don't have the ponies to keep that acceleration going! The 4.7L comes off the line good and has the stuff to keep pulling! Especially with the 5 speed!
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Art
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
02:39:04
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Richmond 5 speed or 6 if you want to bang some gears think they 5 is like 1200,plus flywheel an so on, maybe steal some pedals and master out of a wrecking yard
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Art
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
02:40:26
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Dam wrong board one hapky new yaer :)
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
03:17:19
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Great piece of info Smokin. I know exactly what you are saying about what seat of your pants feeling. Sitting behind the wheel of the R/T felt great. I mean it felt like there was a mountain of power under my seat and indeed there was but the snap of this OHC engine when configured with 3.92's is unbelivable. The 5 speed 4.7 is actually 235HP not 230HP but I have also heard that the Dyno's are showing 5 RWHP more for the 4.7's.
On another note I was sitting at a gas station tonight and fired up my truck. The sound at start up is so unbeleivablly deep and powerfull a guy filling up his Audi TT actually stoped and came over to take a peak at the truck. He asked what I was running and I told him an overhead cam V8. He said the truck was beautifull and if he ever bought a truck it would be one like this. We ended bullshitting for 10 miniutes about my truck and his TT. The TT was very nice also but like most imports lacking in the HP department but like he said it's made for unbeleivable road handling and style. The only thing I wish is that the overall quality of Dodge vehicles was even half that of the German made cars. The Audi door hinges are all self contained lubricated. On a Dodge they just smear grease all over the hinges as just 1 of 100 examples. Dodge however has done an excellent job with overall styling lines and performance inovation so for now it's Mopar all the way.
Also my seat sucks big time. The fabric is so thin that you can see the backing when the sun hits it. I wish I took the seats out of my 98 Dak they were a lot nicer than these ghetto seats.
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BH-R/T
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
03:20:58
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Hey Jeffster,couple of questions for you,since your the 1/4 mile time expert,even know the times I qouted you came straight from MOPAR MUSCLE MAGIZINE how blindingly quick is a stock 4.7 truck?And have you ever been to the race track,or get your truck dynoed?Or are you just guessing.try 206 rwhp and 278 on torque,thats my numbers stock,so you must be "wrong,wrong,wrong!!!!" In my opinion R/T's are not engaging you becuase they are thinking the same as me,not a threat,why bother.I have wasted many brand new mustang gt's and even have had the pleasure of beating and keepin up with a few LT1 camaros,so why bother with the 4.7 dak,easy kill.Too bad you live so far,or I would "engage" your truck immmediatelly,I find that cute that you want to place limitations on the 5.9 before you race one,but the 5.9 has no limitations,one of the reasons why it is better.Hate to burst your bubble but this is one R/Ter that has driven an 4.7,for a week,got it with 23 miles on it , returned with almost 1100 miles,good motor,never said it wasnt,but my R/T is faster.But you are right about one thing,your 4.7 vs 5.9 would not be close at all,the R/T would be gone!
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
03:32:38
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Sorry your dead wrong on that post. I would absolutley crush a stock R/T. I have driven an R/T also and I doubt you have driven the same 4.7 set up I have. The R/T's are good don't get me wrong but you can't stop evolution. Soon there will be something even faster than the 4.7. Just have to accept it.
R.C 4.7 5 speed LS 3.92
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
03:37:31
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Ha ha ha ha. The R/T's aren't engaging me because I am not a threat.
Real defintion!! The R/T's aren't engaging me because they are either low on fuel,scared or both.
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BH-R/T
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
03:53:02
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Get some hard dyno and 1/4 mile times for your 4.7,then we will see what you can crush.Talk is cheap,back it up.Or at the very least get some exhaust for your 4.7 and when you see one of these"scared"(your funny)R/T's,rev on him,tell him you want to race,and do it!be sure to let me know what it felt like loosing to an R/T with your clutch foot in you mouth ok.
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
6/23/2001
09:36:56
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Jeffster, can you email me sometime. Have something to ask you on you truck. Dont want to get involved in this one cause I said my piece about this debate a long time back. I dont race my 4x4.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
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dakrt2000
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
15:07:28
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Thats bullshit about the rts running under
200 rwhp , I own one and have talked with
a shit load of RT owners and no one has less
than 200 maybe you blind or something and I
have most hitting near 220
So bow on that with your little 4.7 becasue
the 5.9 is going to chew you up and spit
you out
Before you start talking shit get the facts
asshole
Mainly so you dont look stupid as
hell when say shit like that
Next time buy an RT
De4finately looks better 16 inch faggy ass
rims, no flares, The truck is gay
Get an RT
DUmbass
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
15:51:26
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I don't want to get into any of the flame war stuff or name calling. I just want to state that my '00, CC, 4.7 Sport 5-speed weighs 4225 lbs. I don't buy the fact that they are lighter than the 5.9 R/Ts. Most all my friends drive R/Ts and I have the utmost of respect for them. I also enjoy racing them every chance I get. You guys definately keep up the good arguments but the trucks are pretty evenly matched performance-wise.
We'll see where the arguments go when the 5.7 comes out!
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Smokin
Dakota Enthusiast
6/23/2001
16:56:50
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I think I will add this to the fire. Ok the mighty 2001 Ford Lightning was dynoed in Sport Truck at 340 horsepower! Could a 5.9L with a Supercharger alone put down those numbers? No way in Hell! The 5.4L is smaller but better.The 5.9L has much more torque but the 5.4l makes more horsepower. The 5.9L is great when it's opened up with no emissions. But Dodge has to choke them so much just to pass emissions! The 4.7L is much more tuned and is no where near as restricted! I have never seen a stock R/T run under 15.0 in the 1/4. Motor trend had a 2000 RC that ran 15.0 but that was the best I've ever seen. The 2001 RC R/T in motortrend ran a 15.4 in the 1/4! The 99 CC I saw tested ran a 15.7 in the 1/4! 15.0 in the 1/4 ia good, but I've seen timeslips on stock RC 4.7L 5 speeds that were 14.7 and 14.8. Times don't lie.A stock RC 4.7l speed will smoke any stock R/T and most that have bolt on's. You want to talk dyno numbers? Then look in an issue of trucktrend where they dynoed the Ram with a 5.9L auto and a Dakota with a 4.7L auto. The Dakota made 218 and the Ram made 217! Think what the 5 speed would have put down... 222 or 225 maybe! Just be realistic a ligther truck with as much or more horsepower and a awesome geared 5 speed. How could that truck lose to a truck with just more torque?
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durtydog
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
17:51:03
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im glad the 5.2 wasnt mentioned other wise id start shoveling the crap out also!he he he
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