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xplikt
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5/29/2002
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Well, the engine is here... hope it shows up in a manual trans newly done R/T...then I might be getting a new truck, lol. At this rate, it looks like it's an engine/vehicle a year for Dodge.
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1Flamed92Dak
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5/29/2002
01:08:52
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Cool its about time that the New Hemi has arrived i think its hilarious that the 4.7l guys get offended so easily would'nt it piss them off even more when there are 3.9l Pumping out more HP than there 4.7l ie my 92 Dakota RWHP is 239 @4800 and Torque is 298 @ 3700 You might have more Torque but NOT TO SHABBY for a 3.9l NA motor ALL MOTOR NO FORCED INDUCTION . As for the HEMI gotta love it
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xplikt
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5/29/2002
01:51:09
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Not really, I am a 4.7L owner and I am not pissed off at all at any other vehicles making more power than me.
I think that a nice 5.7L Or even 6.1L that I can blueprint and rebuild in my garage would be fun. I would still have an engine and I don't have to worry about rushing parts and I can get a good, quality engine in there.
Also, most state laws allow newer generation engines or model's engines to be put in older vehicles. As long as you register your new engine serial number there shouldn't be any problems at all. I've heard of people loosing their vehicles for engine swaps. Not to mention the 5.7L engine costs less than my 4.7L -- that on the other hand, does piss me off, lol.
I'll have to decide wheather I want to keep my 4.7L and turbocharge it to hell, and figure out some very well done timing. Or, get a 5.7L and blueprint it and rebuild most of it in my garage. Wait 'till 6.1L and see if there is any hopes of Dodge not dropping the Dakota for the M80 (yukk!) and bringing us a nice new MANUAL TRANNY (6spd preffered) R/T -- I know, I ask a lot.
Still, I would love an engine to play with! My girlfriend has agreed to let me dive into her 84 Pulsar NX and do whatever to it. It needs a lot of help!
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Big59er
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2002
04:35:55
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What do you mean the engine is here... In the DakR/T the ram? And... when exactly?
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Big59er
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5/29/2002
04:37:38
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Oops... didnt realize there was more to this post than you 2... Sorry :^|
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Big59er
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5/29/2002
04:40:24
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As far as the 4.7 compared to the 5.7 hemi goes... I dont think they make hemi modular engines quite yet...
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Sh-tzu
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5/29/2002
04:43:28
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BHR/T
LoL I almost take it as an insult that you would even think of comparing the new Ram let alone any vehicle, lookswise, to the avalance or the aztek... or that cursed rendeveous.
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R/T Brotha
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5/29/2002
05:11:05
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Please, 4.7 is just a modular truck engine made to replace the 5.2. Not a Hemi in the least. The 5.7 is here to replace the 5.9.
Its funny... Iv never heard about guys rebuilding old Mopar muscle cars and dropping a 4.7 in it... A majority of the time its the Magnum 440, I even saw one guy who had dropped a 5.9 in his rebuilt challenger in hotrod magazine, and Hemi head engines.
The only modular actual performance engines iv seen so far is the one in the Mustang. Thats about it... 4.7 is strictly a truck engine no comparison whatsoever to the hemi.
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Dogma
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5/29/2002
05:39:33
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Ya know whats silly about this whole damn post is that. You would think it would be the 5.9 guys getting upset that they're being replaced by a new engine not the 4.7 owners. The 5.2 guys didnt get pissy when they heard the 4.7 was on the way.
It seems like the 4.7 owners have something negative to say about every other engines but there own.
(4.7 owners reasons for complaining)
Jealous: Because they dont own an R/T
Cocky: Because Joe Blow's 4.7 5-speed with performance computer beat John Doe's Bone stock 5.9 R/T.
Nervous: Because they're afraid that after the 5.7 hemi comes out they're will not be any actual advantages to owning a 4.7...
Nervous Reaction: They claim they're 4.7 is just like the Hemi(I guess that means just like all of the modular Hemis you always here about... *rollseyes*) so when the actual Hemi does return they wont look so bad.
Ya know the thing about all of this you would think the 3.9 guys would be the ones to complain not the 4.7 owners...
What is it with you 4.7 guys?
Maybe its because most of the modifications you here about on a 4.7 are all bolt ons? (Yes, i know there are a handful of 4.7 owners that run with blowers and turbo chargers as for you smart asses out there...)
Cant be all the hype about the 5.9 because a majority of people outside of the mopar circle dont even realize what a 5.9 R/T is so hype isnt the issue obviously.
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Todd Bouton
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5/29/2002
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I like my 4.7, good MPG/HP ratio. 18K +, no probs at all yet.
01 4.7 5spd LSD, +
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Demon-Xanth
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5/29/2002
09:27:37
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I know in California, the laws regarding engine swaps typically are like "emmisions testing is done by body or engine year, whichever is newer"
So you can swap a 5.7 in a 00-02, but you'll have to meet either 03 or 04 emmisions requirements.
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xplikt
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5/29/2002
10:40:56
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Ouch Dogma, got nothing but bad things to say don't you, lets try saying something nice eh? Not all of us are cocky bastards you know.. You 5.9 guys got some problems of your own too, so don't single us out here.
It might be just me, but I think the aftermarket peoples have a thing against the 4.7L, hehe.
Why would the 3.9 guys need to complain? Not fast enough?? They bought a V6 for a reason, if they really wanted fast, I think most of them would have gotten a V8.
If I was looking to spend 4000 on a turbo setup, I might as well consider engine swaps too. 426 is mighty expensive, the 440 is a good possibility for a rebuild since they can be found EVERYWHERE, heh. The 5.7L sounds like it's going to be a decent engine with a much better aftermarket than the 4.7L. The 5.7L is also supposed to be cheaper to build than the 4.7L, so a brand new one should be able to be had for pretty cheap. It should also use many of the same part in the engine compartment as the 4.7L. Same engine mounts you think?? -- that would be nice. If that happened, I do not think I would be the only 4.7L owner switching over.
The 4.7L is a great engine, but just not the drag strip engine I'm looking for. The 4.7L owners also have the frustration of trying to do modifications to make them fast that doesn't include a turbo, nitrous, or a supercharger. There really isn't much they can do, but pride is taken in the fact that the right 4.7L setup can beat an R/T. Why, because there is only so far we can go right now and that's all we got, lol.
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Demon-Xanth
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5/29/2002
11:45:57
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I got the 4.7 and I will be the first to say it's a damned good engine, but will also be the first to admit that the 5.9 and 5.7 will easily outpunch it. The 4.7 has a good predictable power curve with a gentle ramp up in torque and a good kick in the mid range. Some people find heavy amounts of low end torque more difficult to drive smoothly (note: these people aren't me :)
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hardbody
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5/29/2002
22:50:27
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Mopar action magazine (august 2002 issue) just did a story on the new 5.7 hemi they talked about everything from top to bottom of the new hemi they said contrary to what you may have heard that the 5.7 is 345 ci not 353 as you might have heard, and makes 345 HP at 5600rpm, 1 hp per ci, easy to remember, they also said that the old street hemi also made 1 hp per cubic inch but the new 5.7 actually makes more hp sae net HP vs the 426's gross hp, 5.7 will run on mid grade fuel and is designed to last 150,000 miles. They also said as compared to the 360 it will replace that the 5.7 gets 1.5 mpg better fuel economy and weighs almost 100lbs less.Check out the full article for the all the details. Last sentence of the article says " In the meantime dodge truck guys will have lots of fun, especially if this engine finds its way into a stripper dak." Now wouldn't that be nice??!!!
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Big59er
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5/30/2002
01:17:02
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Says down towards the bottom it even costs less than the 4.7 to produce... How about that!?
Im kind of stuck, I dont know if they come out with a hemidak if I should trade off my 5.9 and go for the new stuff, or if I should hang on to the 5.9 R/T for the simple fact it will be out of production soon and might be worth something down the road.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
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Dogma
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5/30/2002
01:19:53
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Alright alright Ill give ya that X... It just always seemed the 5.9 guys were getting the buttend of things from the new wave thats all.
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Dogma
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5/30/2002
01:21:26
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So i guess that makes me a hypocrit. :P I was complaining about a handful of the 4.7 guys complaining
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xplikt
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5/30/2002
02:40:37
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Heh, that's fine Dogma, no offence taken here!
It is a shame that people dump on a classic engine like that. With the right money and know how you can make any engine blow mostly everything you see out of the water, it's more of the name you would be choosing to represent (Chevy, Dodge, Ford, etc).
Next year, I believe the 6.1 will arrive, which is also a hemi, just bigger. Imagine stroking a 6.1L engine, hahaha.
The 5.7L is also smaller in physical size than the 5.9L BTW, which is always good.
I plan on rebuilding my girlfriend's '84 Pulsar NX 1.6L engine real soon for practice. The thing is superman, I'll tell you, it can ping, knock, and idle at 3000 all day (which is does) and still run the same for thousands and thousands of miles. Funny little car, I've been kind of impressed by it's reliablility.
Maybe once I get done with that I'll know if I want to try doing another engine (5.7L, 440, etc), but more performance wise, not just fixing crap. I think it could be fun to blueprint and rebuild an engine!
Once we see the stats on this engine, we can figure out what this beast can be stroked to, heh.
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Dogma
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5/31/2002
21:28:46
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Ya, Ill tell ya alot of these new Dodge V8's and next gen hemi's sound like dodge is bound to get back in the performance race yet. I mean they have had the Crate hemi's for quite awhile and of course nobody has forgotten the viper but it just seemed like when you would think performance you would think 350 or fords modular line in the past 10 years anyhow.
Going to be alot of fun see'ing how the market reacts to all of these new goodies mopar is bringing back :).
Maybe one of these days they'll even bring back a rear wheel drive car with a hemi... and just a big hopefully way out there maybe it'll be a manual as well!
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STEVE67CORONE
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11/29/2002
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My eyes have seen three crows flying with lobster claws? Why are my eyes on the moon?
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HEMI Import
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11/29/2002
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Dogma,
The next generation "letter car", which replaces the current 300M, will be a rear driver, and will have the HEMI as an option. That would be the only thing keeping me from a HEMI powered Dak...
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greg
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12/04/2002
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I just want to notify you hemi lovers that if you put in your order now for the dodge ram 1500 with hemi you get a 2000 dollar rebate until jan 4 03 .
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greg
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12/04/2002
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I just want to notify you hemi lovers that if you put in your order now for the dodge ram 1500 with hemi you get a 2000 dollar rebate until jan 4 03 .
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